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I need an AI agent to continuously ask questions of PMs or stakeholders until the requirements are less vague. The good thing is this would be a plain english d

I need an AI agent to continuously ask questions of PMs or stakeholders until the requirements are less vague. The good thing is this would be a plain english discussion which LLMs are good at. A PM can ask if something is technically feasible to some degree too. Maybe it can even break up tickets in a much better fashion too.

ceejayoz 2y ago
> I need an AI agent to continuously ask questions of PMs or stakeholders until the requirements are less vague. They’ll just get mad at the AI and tell it to stop asking so many questions. As they already do to humans.
ako 2y ago
I’m a pm, today I built a working mockup with windsurf (golang + wails + vuejs +duckd). Windsurf uses codeium, branded as the first agentic IDE. Your requirements will improve, not sure if in the long I still need developers to build the actual software. The development process with windsurf is a bit like throwing a dice, hoping for a 6. A lot of trial and error, but if you check the git log, you see about 15 minutes between commit per feature request. Windsurf does a good job to summarize the entire feature request chat into a short git commit message. Every git commit reads like a user story.
- jondwillis 2y ago
  How… do I find PMs like you? Literally have never worked with a single one that bothered to understand the technology they are building on top of at a deep enough level. Maybe I just need to teach the ones I work with that it is now possible to trivially prototype many ideas without much or any coding skill.
  - th0ma5 2y ago
    Most PMs resist this because then they know the understanding of the requirements falls upon them at that point and this has been traditionally the role of architects, analysts, developers, other stakeholders etc and if you replace them with an LLM, well, it doesn't have the ability to be a true stakeholder in this way.
- tommy_axle 2y ago
  As a PM if you're gathering requirements and building too have a look at genatron.ai
  - ako 2y ago
    There’s just words on the webpage of genatron. Not a single screenshot or video, no example output, no customer statements. Even the technical details are very thin. Doesn’t give me a good impression of what they’re trying to sell.
whamlastxmas 2y ago
As a PM, ChatGPT is great at helping me write tickets in a structured format from me just giving it a single sloppy sentence. I of course review it to make sure it’s understanding me properly. But having to explicitly write stuff like intended behaviors when submitting bugs can be really laborious, though I understand why engineers sometimes need that level of clarity (having been one myself for 15 years)

ceejayoz 2y ago

> I need an AI agent to continuously ask questions of PMs or stakeholders until the requirements are less vague. They’ll just get mad at the AI and tell it to stop asking so many questions. As they already do to humans.

ako 2y ago

I’m a pm, today I built a working mockup with windsurf (golang + wails + vuejs +duckd). Windsurf uses codeium, branded as the first agentic IDE. Your requirements will improve, not sure if in the long I still need developers to build the actual software. The development process with windsurf is a bit like throwing a dice, hoping for a 6. A lot of trial and error, but if you check the git log, you see about 15 minutes between commit per feature request. Windsurf does a good job to summarize the entire feature request chat into a short git commit message. Every git commit reads like a user story.

jondwillis 2y ago
How… do I find PMs like you? Literally have never worked with a single one that bothered to understand the technology they are building on top of at a deep enough level. Maybe I just need to teach the ones I work with that it is now possible to trivially prototype many ideas without much or any coding skill.
- th0ma5 2y ago
  Most PMs resist this because then they know the understanding of the requirements falls upon them at that point and this has been traditionally the role of architects, analysts, developers, other stakeholders etc and if you replace them with an LLM, well, it doesn't have the ability to be a true stakeholder in this way.
tommy_axle 2y ago
As a PM if you're gathering requirements and building too have a look at genatron.ai
- ako 2y ago
  There’s just words on the webpage of genatron. Not a single screenshot or video, no example output, no customer statements. Even the technical details are very thin. Doesn’t give me a good impression of what they’re trying to sell.

whamlastxmas 2y ago

As a PM, ChatGPT is great at helping me write tickets in a structured format from me just giving it a single sloppy sentence. I of course review it to make sure it’s understanding me properly. But having to explicitly write stuff like intended behaviors when submitting bugs can be really laborious, though I understand why engineers sometimes need that level of clarity (having been one myself for 15 years)