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Article full of Hume's guillotine, like most articles about climate and weather. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Is%E2%80%93ought_problem https://en.m.wikipedi
by t0bia_s 2y ago
Article full of Hume's guillotine, like most articles about climate and weather.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Is%E2%80%93ought_problem https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Is%E2%80%93ought_problem
- defrost 2y agoThermodynamics isn't a system of morality.
- t0bia_s 2y agoSure, if you skip what should we do/don't.
- defrost 2y agoGive a few specific examples from the article. Should be easy if it's "full of them".
- t0bia_s 2y agoRight first sentence: "The planet has moved a major step closer to warming more than 1.5C, new data shows, despite world leaders vowing a decade ago they would try to avoid this." "We must exit this road to ruin - and we have no time to lose," he said in his New Year message, calling for countries to slash emissions of planet-warming gases in 2025." "Last year's heat is predominantly due to humanity's emissions of planet-warming gases,..." "The 1.5C figure has become a powerful symbol in international climate negotiations ever since it was agreed in Paris in 2015, with many of the most vulnerable countries considering it a matter of survival." Many more across article...
- Timon3 2y agoMaybe I'm missing or misunderstanding something, but isn't this a criticism you can levy against most news articles that describe events? These seem to be factual descriptions as well as descriptions of ought-statements and -positions taken by related people and groups of people, which is the same case for articles about inflation, or social statistics, or pretty much anything else.
- t0bia_s 2y agoYes. I find most news manipulative. Subjective suggestions are common, for keeping readers attention by rising emotions.
- Timon3 2y agoWhile I can understand that in many cases, the examples in this article are good ones in my eyes. A good news article should cover more than the bare minimum, and all the examples you brought up aren't manipulative in my eyes, since they are simply true.
- t0bia_s 2y agoWhat truth has to do with leaders ability to change a weather? I find suggestions for critical action that leads to eliminate individual freedoms, justified by collective guilt, quite obvious in articles about climate and weather like this.
- defrost 2y agoAnd that kid in that movie could see dead people. It's a pity you can't quite grasp thermodynamics or Hume though :/ Have you tried reading that 1967 paper on CO2 equilibrium in the atmosphere?
- t0bia_s 2y agoYou are not answering my questions.
- Timon3 2y agoWhy are you talking about weather, when the topic is climate? You're either fundamentally misunderstanding the topic, or you're deliberately misrepresenting the article to prove some point, presumably climate change denial.
- defrost 2y agoNone of these are examples of Hume's guillotine.
- t0bia_s 2y agoExplain.
- defrost 2y agoOr what, you won't buy me dinner first? In the spirit of your attitude it's intuitively obvious to the meanest intellect and well covered in courses by the likes of Graham Priest, Dominic Hyde, et al (logical Philosopher types with a grasp of physics and applied math). The water,land,air interface was *predicted* to warm via thermodynamics arguments. Leaders made commitments to reduce the insulation causing the warming. The insulation was not reduced, despite the vows to do so. The water,land,air interface has warmed, as expected in the absence of reduction in insulation. There's no moral or ethical expectation here about how mass and fluids should heat or cool - just thermodynamic equations.
- t0bia_s 2y agoYou really belive that elite can change a weather?