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Most of the patents they've granted look to my highly un-patent-lawyer-like eyes like things I had on phones 5 years before Apple jumped into the fray. I'm not

Most of the patents they've granted look to my highly un-patent-lawyer-like eyes like things I had on phones 5 years before Apple jumped into the fray. I'm not really sweating it too much. Multi-touch is big though and I at least have no recollection of prior art.

grecy 14y ago
> Multi-touch is big though and I at least have no recollection of prior art. For anyone that doubts this, checkout the iPhone announcement keynote one more time. It's really worth watching again. The first time Steve slides to unlock, and the first time he "flicks" to scroll with rubber-banding the crowd is floored. It's worth watching for the "stylus" gag alone. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6uW-E496FXg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6uW-E496FXg
- jarek 14y ago
  I didn't downvote you, but do either of your examples actually have anything to do with multi-touch?
  - grecy 14y ago
    You're right, the two examples I chose to highlight aren't multi-touch. If you watch the video linked, you'll see a ton of examples that are, and you'll see Steve talking about how proud they are to have invented it and patented it. You'll also see the crowd freak-out when they see it, which I think is a reasonable way to assess how many times previously they've seen something similar.
    - jarek 14y ago
      > You'll also see the crowd freak-out when they see it, which I think is a reasonable way to assess how many times previously they've seen something similar. I would disagree: RDF. Not to mention whether a group of Apple journalists and enthusiasts have seen something before isn't quite a waterproof endorsement of lack of prior art.
      - grecy 14y ago
        What's RDF? >isn't quite a waterproof endorsement of lack of prior art. That's why I said "I think is a reasonable way...they've seen similar." I made no statement about it being waterproof or a lack of prior art.
        jarek 14y ago
        Reality distortion field
eropple 14y ago
The Lemur was multi-touch in 2004 or 2005, IIRC.

grecy 14y ago

> Multi-touch is big though and I at least have no recollection of prior art. For anyone that doubts this, checkout the iPhone announcement keynote one more time. It's really worth watching again. The first time Steve slides to unlock, and the first time he "flicks" to scroll with rubber-banding the crowd is floored. It's worth watching for the "stylus" gag alone. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6uW-E496FXg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6uW-E496FXg

jarek 14y ago
I didn't downvote you, but do either of your examples actually have anything to do with multi-touch?
- grecy 14y ago
  You're right, the two examples I chose to highlight aren't multi-touch. If you watch the video linked, you'll see a ton of examples that are, and you'll see Steve talking about how proud they are to have invented it and patented it. You'll also see the crowd freak-out when they see it, which I think is a reasonable way to assess how many times previously they've seen something similar.
  - jarek 14y ago
    > You'll also see the crowd freak-out when they see it, which I think is a reasonable way to assess how many times previously they've seen something similar. I would disagree: RDF. Not to mention whether a group of Apple journalists and enthusiasts have seen something before isn't quite a waterproof endorsement of lack of prior art.
    - grecy 14y ago
      What's RDF? >isn't quite a waterproof endorsement of lack of prior art. That's why I said "I think is a reasonable way...they've seen similar." I made no statement about it being waterproof or a lack of prior art.
      - jarek 14y ago
        Reality distortion field

eropple 14y ago

The Lemur was multi-touch in 2004 or 2005, IIRC.