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There are a LOT of ev fires in China that get scrubbed from the internet and media in China. If you had Weibo you can see them almost daily. You get what you p

There are a LOT of ev fires in China that get scrubbed from the internet and media in China. If you had Weibo you can see them almost daily. You get what you pay for. Cheap junk.

kristopolous 2y ago
The average new car price in the USA is $50,000 which is about as much as a house costs in japan.
- judge2020 2y ago
  Which part of Japan? I found this in Osaka, somewhat far from the city center, for roughly 336k usd https://realestate.japantoday.com/en/forsale/view/1127651 https://realestate.japantoday.com/en/forsale/view/1127651
mitthrowaway2 2y ago
This is no doubt true. But this could either be an inevitable result of corner-cutting, or simply mistakes caused by inexperience, design errors, and poorly dialed-in process parameters. It matters is because in the former case, the unit cost advantage disappears as the problem gets solved. In the latter case, it does not.
thfuran 2y ago
There's something like 170,000 car fires per year in the US. It's just one of those things that's bad and too common to really make the news except maybe locally.
- cscurmudgeon 2y ago
  Safety is also an issue https://www.repairerdrivennews.com/2024/10/30/byd-atto-3-receives-worst-euro-ncap-rating-mercedes-i5-best/ https://www.repairerdrivennews.com/2024/10/30/byd-atto-3-rec... > Mercedes’ i5 received the best score from Euro NCAP for driver-assistance functions, and BYD’s ATTO 3 receiving the worst score
  - Timshel 2y ago
    That safety of the occupant. In the context of a city car I'm more interested in safety for passerby.
    - Kirby64 2y ago
      Why? You can do both, if you want to. If a car can’t have good occupant safety, I would find it very difficult to believe its pedestrian safety would be good instead.
      - thfuran 2y ago
        Occupant safety in a car/pedestrian collision is basically a solved problem, especially at relatively low speed.
        Kirby64 2y ago
        Then why doesn’t every car score top ranking on the safety tests? It’s not a “solved problem” if you don’t spend the money/effort to solve it. And it absolutely costs money to solve the problem, which a cheaper car may not wish to spend.

There are a LOT of ev fires in China that get scrubbed from the internet and media in China. If you had Weibo you can see them almost daily. You get what you pay for. Cheap junk.

kristopolous 2y ago

The average new car price in the USA is $50,000 which is about as much as a house costs in japan.

judge2020 2y ago
Which part of Japan? I found this in Osaka, somewhat far from the city center, for roughly 336k usd https://realestate.japantoday.com/en/forsale/view/1127651 https://realestate.japantoday.com/en/forsale/view/1127651

mitthrowaway2 2y ago

This is no doubt true. But this could either be an inevitable result of corner-cutting, or simply mistakes caused by inexperience, design errors, and poorly dialed-in process parameters. It matters is because in the former case, the unit cost advantage disappears as the problem gets solved. In the latter case, it does not.

thfuran 2y ago

There's something like 170,000 car fires per year in the US. It's just one of those things that's bad and too common to really make the news except maybe locally.

cscurmudgeon 2y ago
Safety is also an issue https://www.repairerdrivennews.com/2024/10/30/byd-atto-3-receives-worst-euro-ncap-rating-mercedes-i5-best/ https://www.repairerdrivennews.com/2024/10/30/byd-atto-3-rec... > Mercedes’ i5 received the best score from Euro NCAP for driver-assistance functions, and BYD’s ATTO 3 receiving the worst score
- Timshel 2y ago
  That safety of the occupant. In the context of a city car I'm more interested in safety for passerby.
  - Kirby64 2y ago
    Why? You can do both, if you want to. If a car can’t have good occupant safety, I would find it very difficult to believe its pedestrian safety would be good instead.
    - thfuran 2y ago
      Occupant safety in a car/pedestrian collision is basically a solved problem, especially at relatively low speed.
      - Kirby64 2y ago
        Then why doesn’t every car score top ranking on the safety tests? It’s not a “solved problem” if you don’t spend the money/effort to solve it. And it absolutely costs money to solve the problem, which a cheaper car may not wish to spend.