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MLK's ideals were not colorblindness. He explicitly supported race-specific reparations and policies that focused on repairing specific racial oppression and su

MLK's ideals were not colorblindness. He explicitly supported race-specific reparations and policies that focused on repairing specific racial oppression and suffering. MLK had one famous line in a speech that has been leveraged by reactionaries to use him as a weapon against advocates of racial liberation. But that is not an honest use of his beliefs.

ponow 2y ago
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- Izkata 2y ago
  Yep, that's exactly why it became the thing he's known for.
- NotSammyHagar 2y ago
  what is the commie stuff?
  - raffraffraff 2y ago
    Dunno but I wonder if Jesus would be considered a commie if he appeared incognito in 1950s America.
    - Draiken 2y ago
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- UncleMeat 2y ago
  You could claim that if you want, I suppose. But the post above me said "MLK’s of vision equality", which is not a system of official colorblindness.
nine_k 2y ago
MLK was a minister (because Baptists don't have priesthood), Reverend Martin Luther King Jr. He was profoundly Christian. The whole movement for racial equality, and thus liberation, in the USA grew from intensely Christian foundations. One of the core tenets of abolitionism was the idea that humans are created equal, and such attributes as race or skin color are irrelevant before God, and hence to the faithful, too. Christ specifically said that being a Greek or being a Jew does not matter before God, and being a slave or being a master also does not matter; all are equal. So, certain amounts of colorblindness are inherent to the very idea of people of different origins being equal, as it emerged in the USA, and supposedly elsewhere in the Christian-dominated areas of the world. Also, it's the idea of equality, equal worth (before God), not of fairness or compensation; the latter might come from atonement and Christian love to the neighbor. Eventually other ideas took hold and somehow eclipsed the initial ideas, not just of 1860s but also of MLK's.
- UncleMeat 2y ago
  MLK believed in equal worth. But he did not believe that the mechanism to achieve this in public was systems-level colorblindness. I also think that Christians specifically should be comfortable with the concept of generational sin and personal sacrifice for social justice rather than a vigorous defense that one's achievement's are solely their own and must be hoarded at all costs.
  - naasking 2y ago
    > I also think that Christians specifically should be comfortable with the concept of generational sin and personal sacrifice for social justice rather than a vigorous defense that one's achievement's are solely their own and must be hoarded at all costs. This is a false choice. They are not the only two options.
hitekker 2y ago
I agree with the sibling's point: MLK's ideals transcend ideology. He understood that all men of all colors were equal before God; a belief which he instilled in his movement. He did not play the motte-and-bailey game of "some are more equal than others", that was so popular last decade. Calling MLK's values "colorblindness" in the way of "racial liberation" is the kind of double-speak the GP criticizes. Language that distances everyone from the capital-T Truth that MLK knew and died for, in favor of small truths that pretend to unite but actually divide.

ponow 2y ago

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Izkata 2y ago
Yep, that's exactly why it became the thing he's known for.
NotSammyHagar 2y ago
what is the commie stuff?
- raffraffraff 2y ago
  Dunno but I wonder if Jesus would be considered a commie if he appeared incognito in 1950s America.
  - Draiken 2y ago
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UncleMeat 2y ago
You could claim that if you want, I suppose. But the post above me said "MLK’s of vision equality", which is not a system of official colorblindness.

nine_k 2y ago

MLK was a minister (because Baptists don't have priesthood), Reverend Martin Luther King Jr. He was profoundly Christian. The whole movement for racial equality, and thus liberation, in the USA grew from intensely Christian foundations. One of the core tenets of abolitionism was the idea that humans are created equal, and such attributes as race or skin color are irrelevant before God, and hence to the faithful, too. Christ specifically said that being a Greek or being a Jew does not matter before God, and being a slave or being a master also does not matter; all are equal. So, certain amounts of colorblindness are inherent to the very idea of people of different origins being equal, as it emerged in the USA, and supposedly elsewhere in the Christian-dominated areas of the world. Also, it's the idea of equality, equal worth (before God), not of fairness or compensation; the latter might come from atonement and Christian love to the neighbor. Eventually other ideas took hold and somehow eclipsed the initial ideas, not just of 1860s but also of MLK's.

UncleMeat 2y ago
MLK believed in equal worth. But he did not believe that the mechanism to achieve this in public was systems-level colorblindness. I also think that Christians specifically should be comfortable with the concept of generational sin and personal sacrifice for social justice rather than a vigorous defense that one's achievement's are solely their own and must be hoarded at all costs.
- naasking 2y ago
  > I also think that Christians specifically should be comfortable with the concept of generational sin and personal sacrifice for social justice rather than a vigorous defense that one's achievement's are solely their own and must be hoarded at all costs. This is a false choice. They are not the only two options.

hitekker 2y ago

I agree with the sibling's point: MLK's ideals transcend ideology. He understood that all men of all colors were equal before God; a belief which he instilled in his movement. He did not play the motte-and-bailey game of "some are more equal than others", that was so popular last decade. Calling MLK's values "colorblindness" in the way of "racial liberation" is the kind of double-speak the GP criticizes. Language that distances everyone from the capital-T Truth that MLK knew and died for, in favor of small truths that pretend to unite but actually divide.