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We already have a mechanism for this and it's called the Department of Transportation. But as we've seen in recent decades, we can't be reliant on our administr

We already have a mechanism for this and it's called the Department of Transportation. But as we've seen in recent decades, we can't be reliant on our administrations to do their jobs. You can see on any headlights they have a D.O.T. number but these have been faked by unregulated imports for a long time. But aftermarket isn't even the issue here. A lot of cities have given up any kind of enforcement for illegally modified cars, let alone DOT updating regulations for new technologies. I was pulled over regularly as a teenager for having lights I purchased at AutoZone for "being too blue". I doubt that ever happens anymore.

getcrunk 2y ago
Why did they stop? Seems like a ticket quota wet dream
- analog31 2y ago
  Let's see the calibration certificate for the measurement instrument, and your training records.
  - olyjohn 2y ago
    This doesn't really work to get you out of a ticket.
- 01HNNWZ0MV43FF 2y ago
  There is probably too much overlap between the people who become police officers and the people who think unsafe modifications to cars should be legal
Glyptodon 2y ago
They can't even figure out how to approve a replaceable standard LED bulb after 20 years while consumers just buy them anyway.
- olyjohn 2y ago
  There is no standard LED bulb for external vehicle lighting. Every car with LED lights has proprietary lighting. Only halogens and HIDs have standard bulbs. LEDs cannot replace halogens because they don't project light from the same location or radiate it in the same pattern. Projector and cutoffs do not solve this problem.
  - Glyptodon 2y ago
    (a) I think issues mentioned are basically moot (or solvea le) for brake lights and they still haven't done anything. (b) The lack of any standards for LED bulbs and only having proprietary lighting is definitely part of the problem.
oliwarner 2y ago
> I was pulled over regularly as a teenager You'd think either you or the police would have done something rather than just pulling you over again and again. In the UK you'd get a ticket then have your car impounded if you repeatedly ignored a simple compliance warning, and if they thought it was dangerous to other drivers, they'd probably seize it on the spot.
- neuroelectron 2y ago
  It's just an excuse to pull you over. The only time I ever got a "fix-it ticket" when one I was already middle aged. They're just taking advantage of your naivety as a teenager to sniff around. Teenagers with disposable, conspicuous consumption are profiled. With no record of the reason for the stop, there's no reason to fix it. I did replace the lights, obviously but that didn't stop them from pulling over every time I went through that part of town.

getcrunk 2y ago

Why did they stop? Seems like a ticket quota wet dream

analog31 2y ago
Let's see the calibration certificate for the measurement instrument, and your training records.
- olyjohn 2y ago
  This doesn't really work to get you out of a ticket.
01HNNWZ0MV43FF 2y ago
There is probably too much overlap between the people who become police officers and the people who think unsafe modifications to cars should be legal

Glyptodon 2y ago

They can't even figure out how to approve a replaceable standard LED bulb after 20 years while consumers just buy them anyway.

olyjohn 2y ago
There is no standard LED bulb for external vehicle lighting. Every car with LED lights has proprietary lighting. Only halogens and HIDs have standard bulbs. LEDs cannot replace halogens because they don't project light from the same location or radiate it in the same pattern. Projector and cutoffs do not solve this problem.
- Glyptodon 2y ago
  (a) I think issues mentioned are basically moot (or solvea le) for brake lights and they still haven't done anything. (b) The lack of any standards for LED bulbs and only having proprietary lighting is definitely part of the problem.

oliwarner 2y ago

> I was pulled over regularly as a teenager You'd think either you or the police would have done something rather than just pulling you over again and again. In the UK you'd get a ticket then have your car impounded if you repeatedly ignored a simple compliance warning, and if they thought it was dangerous to other drivers, they'd probably seize it on the spot.

neuroelectron 2y ago
It's just an excuse to pull you over. The only time I ever got a "fix-it ticket" when one I was already middle aged. They're just taking advantage of your naivety as a teenager to sniff around. Teenagers with disposable, conspicuous consumption are profiled. With no record of the reason for the stop, there's no reason to fix it. I did replace the lights, obviously but that didn't stop them from pulling over every time I went through that part of town.