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The government and laws?

MichaelZuo 2y ago
Which part of what government? With what legal basis? Things aren’t magically legal and viable in the real world just because an HN user imagines it.
- wpm 2y ago
  Most liberal democracies have provision within their founding documents and case law to allow for central governments at all levels to provide for the general welfare. You are asking highly vague implementation details about a small hypothetical. It comes off as incredibly rude and like you're fishing for some answer you already mentally dunked on.
  - MichaelZuo 2y ago
    Why does your opinion matter more than anyone else’s opinion here? Even if you believe my previous questions were too opinionated, responding with even more can only be detrimental, and it is not going to lead anywhere productive. For example, try making a substantive argument as to how a credible enforcement system would come into existence. Otherwise the default assumption is that it will not turn out any better than already existing government systems.
    - saagarjha 2y ago
      I'll add a second opinion to that. Still feeling smug about it?
      - MichaelZuo 2y ago
        Smug about an argument I haven’t seen? What do you believe is the actual argument…?
        saagarjha 2y ago
        The part where you like to go around being annoying and then when people get upset retreating to "my opinion is just as valuable as yours". Which I think is stupid, except this time I'm not even going to engage on that and directly say that I also agree with their position, which means that not only is your opinion dumb it is also in the minority.
        MichaelZuo 2y ago
        This seems incoherent, how does this relate to the prior comment? And why would the number of users expressing opinions even matter? Edit: I’m not here to score points, so it seems irrelevant in any comment chain whatsoever.
        saagarjha 2y ago
        Do you have an actual direction you want to take this conversation, or will you just keep asking questions like this that seemingly nobody can satiate? What do you gain from doing this? (Speaking in my own words again: I am going to be very, very explicit here. You have a habit of asking super vague questions which require people to do a massive amount of work for you to explain their position while you can sit and continue at little cost to you: a sort of verbal DoS. Except we're not computers, we are people, and nobody takes kindly to this. When they inform you of this you retreat to "ok, and why should I listen to you?" which is even worse. I think you should take a good look at how you communicate with other people and see if you frequently leave them upset and unwilling to continue talking to you. Maybe you should direct one of your questions at yourself for why they keep doing that, such that you have to keep replying like this: https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&query=michaelzuo%20opinion%20than&sort=byDate&type=comment https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que....)
        MichaelZuo 2y ago
        This still seems incoherent, I’m assuming your the same person behind ‘saagarjha’, who entered into this comment chain and raised multiple bizarre points including “… which means that not only is your opinion dumb it is also in the minority.” I’m not going to pretend your past comment doesn’t exist. So the number of users opining in a comment chain is relevant… how…? Edit: If you don’t like someone else asking questions, just leave the comment chain, otherwise don’t waste people’s time.

Which part of what government? With what legal basis? Things aren’t magically legal and viable in the real world just because an HN user imagines it.

wpm 2y ago
Most liberal democracies have provision within their founding documents and case law to allow for central governments at all levels to provide for the general welfare. You are asking highly vague implementation details about a small hypothetical. It comes off as incredibly rude and like you're fishing for some answer you already mentally dunked on.
- MichaelZuo 2y ago
  Why does your opinion matter more than anyone else’s opinion here? Even if you believe my previous questions were too opinionated, responding with even more can only be detrimental, and it is not going to lead anywhere productive. For example, try making a substantive argument as to how a credible enforcement system would come into existence. Otherwise the default assumption is that it will not turn out any better than already existing government systems.
  - saagarjha 2y ago
    I'll add a second opinion to that. Still feeling smug about it?
    - MichaelZuo 2y ago
      Smug about an argument I haven’t seen? What do you believe is the actual argument…?
      - saagarjha 2y ago
        The part where you like to go around being annoying and then when people get upset retreating to "my opinion is just as valuable as yours". Which I think is stupid, except this time I'm not even going to engage on that and directly say that I also agree with their position, which means that not only is your opinion dumb it is also in the minority.
        MichaelZuo 2y ago
        This seems incoherent, how does this relate to the prior comment? And why would the number of users expressing opinions even matter? Edit: I’m not here to score points, so it seems irrelevant in any comment chain whatsoever.
        saagarjha 2y ago
        Do you have an actual direction you want to take this conversation, or will you just keep asking questions like this that seemingly nobody can satiate? What do you gain from doing this? (Speaking in my own words again: I am going to be very, very explicit here. You have a habit of asking super vague questions which require people to do a massive amount of work for you to explain their position while you can sit and continue at little cost to you: a sort of verbal DoS. Except we're not computers, we are people, and nobody takes kindly to this. When they inform you of this you retreat to "ok, and why should I listen to you?" which is even worse. I think you should take a good look at how you communicate with other people and see if you frequently leave them upset and unwilling to continue talking to you. Maybe you should direct one of your questions at yourself for why they keep doing that, such that you have to keep replying like this: https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&query=michaelzuo%20opinion%20than&sort=byDate&type=comment https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que....)
        MichaelZuo 2y ago
        This still seems incoherent, I’m assuming your the same person behind ‘saagarjha’, who entered into this comment chain and raised multiple bizarre points including “… which means that not only is your opinion dumb it is also in the minority.” I’m not going to pretend your past comment doesn’t exist. So the number of users opining in a comment chain is relevant… how…? Edit: If you don’t like someone else asking questions, just leave the comment chain, otherwise don’t waste people’s time.