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Is that really different than traditional Western societies? Medieval European societies had complex systems governing shared rights and ownership of common gra
by mitthrowaway2 2y ago
Is that really different than traditional Western societies? Medieval European societies had complex systems governing shared rights and ownership of common grazing lands and forests, for example. Those rights changed over time (such as through the Inclosure Acts) but it's not a concept alien to western societies.
- AlotOfReading 2y agoThere's probably an interesting comparative discussion that I'm not remotely qualified to have on medieval European property rights, but there's enough history of colonial settlers wildly misunderstanding indigenous property systems that I don't know a better word than "alien".
- ethbr1 2y ago"Misunderstanding" seems perhaps overly charitable to the colonial settlers. Possessing of enough military force to ignore others rights would be more historically descriptive. Even if they had fully understood all the nuances of indigenous property rights, they still would have stolen the land. Confusion was just a fig leaf.
- ponow 2y agoDeveloping defence capacity is a basic responsibility. Humans can scream foul if they lose out to machine hybrids or extraterrestrials.
- 9dev 2y agoSo what, it’s your own fault if someone assaults you and takes away your things?
- ethbr1 2y agoI mean, kind of? Not in a morally absolving the attacker way. But in a you had agency and chose to underinvest in defense way. That said, it's pretty unlikely the rest of the world could have defended against a technologically advanced Europe / Middle East / China, at their respective peaks, and especially after transoceanic sail enabled cross-sea logistics.