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I'm suprised how easily people swallow someone else's hearsay and then spray vomit it out as the truth. For all we know that guy had a lot worse things than a

I'm suprised how easily people swallow someone else's hearsay and then spray vomit it out as the truth. For all we know that guy had a lot worse things than a couple of half nude pics in those 9GB of data. Having followed a bunch of these types of stories on some other sites (webhostingtalk), 9 out of 10 times the "victim" is holding back so much details from the actual story that they might as well be lying.

typicalrunt 14y ago
And for all we know he had a picture of his newborn. Aren't you promoting the same hearsay? you said: I'm suprised how easily people swallow someone else's hearsay and then spray vomit it out as the truth. and then you said: Having followed a bunch of these types of stories on some other sites (webhostingtalk), 9 out of 10 times the "victim" is holding back so much details from the actual story that they might as well be lying. You're contradicting yourself. You're stating hearsay (you had no direct contact with the issue of 9/10 lying people, you only heard it from webhostingtalk) and then purporting it to be true. Regardless of whether the original author is telling the truth, it doesn't matter because that's not the point of the article. The point is that you may lose more than you know simply by being deemed a violator in the eyes of Microsoft, so it's buyer beware. Relating to your comment: People are innocent until proven guilty in the US. If Microsoft found something that they deemed a code of conduct violation, then they can bring it up with the police or they can at least bring it up with the account owner. Maybe it was SkyDrive uploading more than he expected?
- powertower 14y ago
  > Aren't you promoting the same hearsay? I'm promoting the statistical observation that there is a 90%-95% chance that these types of stories are made up. My dataset is gathered over the last decade, from hundreds of stories, first published by the "victim", then detailed by the other party. > so it's buyer beware No. It's reader beware, if you want to take my comment into context. The fact is if there is no sensationalism, then there is no story. Hence we get mostly sensationalism when we get stories. And that's not hearsay.
  - kstenerud 14y ago
    Care to share this dataset? Otherwise one can only consider you as trustworthy as the stories you condemn.
  - Karunamon 14y ago
    >I'm promoting the statistical observation that there is a 90%-95% chance that these types of stories are made up. As far as statistics go, there's a 100% percent chance you pulled that one out your arse.
jdboyd 14y ago
While we can't easily confirm the truth of what happened, we should be able to confirm if the quote from the SkyDrive ToS is accurate. If it is accurate, then it is worth pointing out to people. I don't think that private file storage services should be snooping in what I'm storing. Their limitations to what I store should be limited to what's legal (they can have stricter limitations to what I share if they want), and they shouldn't be checking every file (even automatically) to see if it looks legal. I tried to look for the ToS, but it seems that to see them I have to first get a LiveID and agree to the LiveID ToS, so I gave up at that point.
- petitmiam 14y ago
  Code Of Conduct: http://windows.microsoft.com/en-AU/windows-live/code-of-conduct http://windows.microsoft.com/en-AU/windows-live/code-of-cond... Terms Of Use: http://www.microsoft.com/info/au-en/cpyright.mspx http://www.microsoft.com/info/au-en/cpyright.mspx Service Agreement: http://windows.microsoft.com/en-AU/windows-live/microsoft-service-agreement http://windows.microsoft.com/en-AU/windows-live/microsoft-se...
jongraehl 14y ago
The people objecting to this on the basis of hypocrisy are making an obvious error and should know better. The population of people complaining about how they were wronged by a corporation has different characteristics than the population of skeptical comment writers. Stop pattern matching and start thinking.

typicalrunt 14y ago

And for all we know he had a picture of his newborn. Aren't you promoting the same hearsay? you said: I'm suprised how easily people swallow someone else's hearsay and then spray vomit it out as the truth. and then you said: Having followed a bunch of these types of stories on some other sites (webhostingtalk), 9 out of 10 times the "victim" is holding back so much details from the actual story that they might as well be lying. You're contradicting yourself. You're stating hearsay (you had no direct contact with the issue of 9/10 lying people, you only heard it from webhostingtalk) and then purporting it to be true. Regardless of whether the original author is telling the truth, it doesn't matter because that's not the point of the article. The point is that you may lose more than you know simply by being deemed a violator in the eyes of Microsoft, so it's buyer beware. Relating to your comment: People are innocent until proven guilty in the US. If Microsoft found something that they deemed a code of conduct violation, then they can bring it up with the police or they can at least bring it up with the account owner. Maybe it was SkyDrive uploading more than he expected?

powertower 14y ago
> Aren't you promoting the same hearsay? I'm promoting the statistical observation that there is a 90%-95% chance that these types of stories are made up. My dataset is gathered over the last decade, from hundreds of stories, first published by the "victim", then detailed by the other party. > so it's buyer beware No. It's reader beware, if you want to take my comment into context. The fact is if there is no sensationalism, then there is no story. Hence we get mostly sensationalism when we get stories. And that's not hearsay.
- kstenerud 14y ago
  Care to share this dataset? Otherwise one can only consider you as trustworthy as the stories you condemn.
- Karunamon 14y ago
  >I'm promoting the statistical observation that there is a 90%-95% chance that these types of stories are made up. As far as statistics go, there's a 100% percent chance you pulled that one out your arse.

jdboyd 14y ago

While we can't easily confirm the truth of what happened, we should be able to confirm if the quote from the SkyDrive ToS is accurate. If it is accurate, then it is worth pointing out to people. I don't think that private file storage services should be snooping in what I'm storing. Their limitations to what I store should be limited to what's legal (they can have stricter limitations to what I share if they want), and they shouldn't be checking every file (even automatically) to see if it looks legal. I tried to look for the ToS, but it seems that to see them I have to first get a LiveID and agree to the LiveID ToS, so I gave up at that point.

petitmiam 14y ago
Code Of Conduct: http://windows.microsoft.com/en-AU/windows-live/code-of-conduct http://windows.microsoft.com/en-AU/windows-live/code-of-cond... Terms Of Use: http://www.microsoft.com/info/au-en/cpyright.mspx http://www.microsoft.com/info/au-en/cpyright.mspx Service Agreement: http://windows.microsoft.com/en-AU/windows-live/microsoft-service-agreement http://windows.microsoft.com/en-AU/windows-live/microsoft-se...

jongraehl 14y ago

The people objecting to this on the basis of hypocrisy are making an obvious error and should know better. The population of people complaining about how they were wronged by a corporation has different characteristics than the population of skeptical comment writers. Stop pattern matching and start thinking.