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Application Insights, Data Dog, New Relic, etc… APM products in general.

• hinkley 2y ago
  How to send Prometheus data to New Relic: https://docs.newrelic.com/docs/infrastructure/prometheus-integrations/get-started/send-prometheus-metric-data-new-relic/ https://docs.newrelic.com/docs/infrastructure/prometheus-int... How to send StatsD data to Datadog: https://docs.datadoghq.com/developers/dogstatsd/?tab=hostagent https://docs.datadoghq.com/developers/dogstatsd/?tab=hostage... Places like datadog and posthog are selling you their ability to ingest your existing data. I call bullshit. It’s a problem looking for a solution. It’s an excuse for engineers to build moats around a moderately difficult problem by making it inscrutable.
  • wbl 2y ago
    It simplifies the issue for applications and libraries that can support Otel and quickly integrate with whatever is being used to collect the data.
  • paulddraper 2y ago
    The whole idea of OTel is not to be a moat. It's the exact opposite. I can export traces (or metrics or logs) to whatever backend I want, and change easily.
    • hinkley 2y ago
      You’re talking about a data moat, I’m talking about intellectual moats and intentional complexity, as opposed to accidental or essential complexity.
  • nijave 2y ago
    You're ignoring the oldest and most mature part of OTEL which is traces. If you look up how to send traces to any popular vendor the options are either a) use our proprietary for at and proprietary agents and SDKs, or b) use otel Iirc metrics in OTEL are very similar to Prometheus. Haven't looked at logging but realistically logging becomes an afterthougt with a good tracing setup.