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Diversity should never be a goal or initiative. It’s a value. You wake up every day and practice diverse hiring practices. The moment you put a tangible targe
by deadbabe 2y ago
Diversity should never be a goal or initiative.
It’s a value. You wake up every day and practice diverse hiring practices.
The moment you put a tangible target to hit, is when you gamify diversity into something bad.
- mmooss 2y agoHow do you make it happen? Relying on people to "wake up every day and practice diverse hiring practices" wasn't working.
- asdasdsddd 2y agoHow do you know its not working? Because there are statistical differences in outcomes between groups of people?
- deadbabe 2y agoIt starts by hiring people who share your values. Don’t hire scumbags, liars, racists, Neo-Nazis, etc. If someone demonstrates they don’t represent your company’s values, get rid of them or put them in non-decision making roles and keep an eye on them.
- surgical_fire 2y agoCompany values are bullshit. Corporations only care about making money, no matter the damage they cause in their profit-seeking motive. All else is fluff.
- mmooss 2y agoX doesn't seem too motivated to make money; Musk's decisions seem to pursue is values (power) and sacrifice revenue. It seems like Facebooks recent decisions may do the same.
- deadbabe 2y agoIf you don’t give a fuck about anything besides making money then why even pretend to care about diversity if you don’t have to? Seems like corporations will drop the mask in 2025.
- surgical_fire 2y agoBecause pretending to care costs very little, and gullible people fall for the "company values" talk.
- mmooss 2y agoYou think you're taking a side, but really you are taking the corporations side: By saying organizations and the people who run them have no morals, you've lowered the requirements and norms of organizations and humanity. It turns out people have morals - it's an intrinsic part of humanity, especially as social beings - and they can choose them and act on them, and they are responsible for doing so in any society. Somehow, you just let them off the hook.
- surgical_fire 2y agoIndividuals may have morals. Corporations have none. They only care about profits. That's why I support strong government regulation to rein in how corporations behave. I am not taking the side of corporations here. You are by believing in the fairy tale of "company values".
- adrr 2y agoIs this anecdotal or do you have source where hiring doesn’t match the pool of qualified candidates(Eg: recent CS degrees graduates)?
- npteljes 2y agoI agree that it's a bad goal, in terms of how it being a goal corrupts the value itself. Like in Goodhart's law, "When a measure becomes a target, it ceases to be a good measure". But managing a larger entity cannot realistically be done via values, I think. Different people have different interpretations of the same values, and not sharing the values 100% in the first place, so, the values will need to be formulated into more tangible things, like goals, limits, directives, laws, ect. Will not be ever perfect, but I doubt that we have better tools to achieve it.
- tim333 2y agoThere's also the Martin Luther King thing "...will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character." A lot of DEI hiring seems to be about fashionable skin colours.