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That title image looks like it is from the set of a sitcom starring Mark Zuckerberg. DEI initiatives have always been a dog and pony show, not a thing executiv
by ColdTakes 2y ago
That title image looks like it is from the set of a sitcom starring Mark Zuckerberg.
DEI initiatives have always been a dog and pony show, not a thing executives have ever truly cared about and they are now in a political environment where they can show what they believe in. People will learn the hard way these companies have never cared about you.
- blackeyeblitzar 2y agoThey may have been a dog and pony show but were definitely real and forced executives to change how they hire and promote in illegal, discriminatory ways.
- AndyNemmity 2y agoPerhaps in your experience, I would be for them if they "forced executives to change how they hire". From my perspective, that has not happened. My problem is their lack of teeth to do what they say they do.
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- blackeyeblitzar 2y agoThere were teeth, in that your own performance review (as a leader) would be affected by it. Depending on your level, your own promotion would require certain stats for your teams for it to be approved. So people made all sorts of decisions - including hiring people they shouldn’t have hired - in order to push those numbers to where they were forced to. The same happened behind closed doors on promotions.
- AndyNemmity 2y agoThat was not the case in my experience. I am learning that we all have vastly different experiences on what the implementation was, making the discussion rather difficult because we are all talking from very different vantage points.
- ColdTakes 2y agoIt would help the conversation if you expound on your experiences on implementation.
- l0t0b0r0s 2y agoThat would require the person having an actual argument instead of being a contrarian shill.
- devvvvvvv 2y agoWhat exactly else did DEI initiatives do besides try to get people hired for their race instead of their competence?
- laughinghan 2y agoIn theory they try to get people hired for their competence rather than their network. A widely-cited anecdotal example of this reportedly working well is the Rooney Rule: https://www.espn.com/nfl/playoffs06/news/story?id=2750645 https://www.espn.com/nfl/playoffs06/news/story?id=2750645 This thread also has a lot of anecdotal examples of failure modes of 'diverse slate' rules, though, such as people who have already decided who to hire still interviewing women candidates just to appease the rule, thus wasting everyone's time.
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- smrtinsert 2y agoI think the only "dei" hire i saw was an administrative assistant that got fired ultimately. Let's not pretend eng hasn't had a massive gap in available hires for a very long time.
- AndyNemmity 2y agoWell said. What we need is real DEI initiatives. But private dictatorships don't care about this stuff. Only what marketing value they can gain from it.
- inglor_cz 2y ago[flagged]
- AndyNemmity 2y agoThe threshold is when ideals meet actionable outcomes. And it's not a utopian system.
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- AndyNemmity 2y agoYou don't even require Communism for economic Equity. That's possible within capitalism. We're pretty far off the discussion at this point though.
- bubblethink 2y agoThe weirdest one I saw was when Uber Eats would highlight black owned businesses and ask you to order from them. Uber isn't going to lower its cut for these black businesses or donate to some charity for black people if you order. It just wants you to funnel money to them through a black business. Bizarre.
- undersuit 2y agohttps://merchants.ubereats.com/us/en/black-owned-restaurants/ https://merchants.ubereats.com/us/en/black-owned-restaurants... Not bizarre, capitalism. Uber Eats should expand their offerings else someone else will take that market segment.