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> We serve everyone. We are committed to making our products accessible, beneficial and universally impactful for everyone. The new(ly leaked) moderation guide

> We serve everyone. We are committed to making our products accessible, beneficial and universally impactful for everyone. The new(ly leaked) moderation guidelines might suggest otherwise...

jsheard 2y ago
Apparently they consider platforming hate speech to be beneficial because it could bolster sympathy for the groups being attacked. I wish I was joking. https://www.platformer.news/meta-new-trans-guidelines-hate-speech/ https://www.platformer.news/meta-new-trans-guidelines-hate-s... Alex Schultz, the company’s chief marketing officer and highest-ranking gay executive, suggested in an internal post that people seeing their queer friends and family members abused on Facebook and Instagram could lead to increased support for LGBTQ rights.
- jandrese 2y ago
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  - dullcrisp 2y ago
    Ultimately, kind of. There were some bumps along the road though.
    - lesuorac 2y ago
      Kind of? More like absolutely no. The administration went on to go round up Jews and literally kill them. Co-incidentally, that administration was friends with a far away island nation that attacked a 3rd party who ultimately assisted with removing the administration from power for completely non-jewish reasons. And if somebody wants to point out the USSR's help with removing the administration; that was also not for jewish reasons.
      - dullcrisp 2y ago
        I was being facetious, sorry.
        wussboy 2y ago
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        eapressoandcats 2y ago
        I saw that, but that was a tough one to land.
    - NewJazz 2y ago
      Only a few million little bumps, no big deal...
  - deadbabe 2y ago
    A more recent example would be Gaza. People didn’t care till they saw images. Lately, the imagery has disappeared and people don’t care again.
    - deleted 2y ago
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    - nicce 2y ago
      > Lately, the imagery has disappeared and people don’t care again. It is sad. Not many even is aware that it is very intentional.
  - Karrot_Kream 2y ago
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- spondylosaurus 2y ago
  And a marketer too! My god. Kind of an insane stance to take considering we've seen exactly what happens when queer people's friends and family members get pummeled with anti-gay and anti-trans hate campaigns... which is that half of them end up falling for it and turning on their friend/family members.
- fzeroracer 2y ago
  A company would have to put me at gunpoint to make me say something similarly as insane. I'd sooner quit and give the entire place a massive middle finger.
- briansteffens 2y ago
  Is there anything that couldn't be justified with this style of thinking? Would this person support legalizing murder since more murders might raise awareness of how bad murder is?
  - wiseowise 2y ago
    Why would you compare hate comment posted online to murder?
- 01HNNWZ0MV43FF 2y ago
  Bullies important part of playground ecosystem, says bully lol
- say_it_as_it_is 2y ago
  The world moved away from legitimate grievances to something else entirely. Hate speech in 2025 is not the same as it was in 2000. None for the better.
ceejayoz 2y ago
For anyone unfamiliar: https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/social-media/meta-new-hate-speech-rules-allow-users-call-lgbtq-people-mentally-ill-rcna186700 https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/social-media/meta-new-hate-spee... > “We do allow allegations of mental illness or abnormality when based on gender or sexual orientation, given political and religious discourse about transgenderism and homosexuality and common non-serious usage of words like ‘weird,’” the revised company guidelines read.
- jandrese 2y ago
  > common non-serious usage of words like ‘weird,’ Are they still mad over the couch thing?
  - ceejayoz 2y ago
    "That's my secret, Cap. I'm always angry."
  - pesus 2y ago
    They are always incredibly upset about extremely mild "insults". There's a 50/50 chance you get downvoted for pointing out their weirdness.
- mossTechnician 2y ago
  This is practically a guideline to people who want to deploy hate speech against other minorities on the platform: just make a topic "controversial" enough.
- returntocollege 2y ago
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- segasaturn 2y ago
  Additionally they've unbanned the use of some slurs, such as calling other people "retarded". Not a nice feeling having grown up with that word directed at me almost every day.
mossTechnician 2y ago
Is this a reference to the changed TOS or something else? The recent policy carve-out allowing "allegations of mental illness" towards LGBT people (but no other minority) definitely speaks to a lack of universality, but that's from Facebook itself: https://transparency.meta.com/policies/community-standards/hateful-conduct/ https://transparency.meta.com/policies/community-standards/h...
- jsheard 2y ago
  The Intercept leaked more detailed internal guidelines: https://theintercept.com/2025/01/09/facebook-instagram-meta-hate-speech-content-moderation/ https://theintercept.com/2025/01/09/facebook-instagram-meta-...
  - elsonrodriguez 2y ago
    Holy shit.
jazzyjackson 2y ago
God save us if they're updating their KPI from "engagement" to "impact"
barbazoo 2y ago
"impact" can mean all things
praptak 2y ago
It is "everyone". Just like "all lives matter" is a deeply humanistic message about the sanctity of life of all human beings, nothing else.
- spondylosaurus 2y ago
  Ha. Of course.
deleted 2y ago
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wmf 2y ago
Everyone will be insulted equally.

> We serve everyone. We are committed to making our products accessible, beneficial and universally impactful for everyone. The new(ly leaked) moderation guidelines might suggest otherwise...

jsheard 2y ago

Apparently they consider platforming hate speech to be beneficial because it could bolster sympathy for the groups being attacked. I wish I was joking. https://www.platformer.news/meta-new-trans-guidelines-hate-speech/ https://www.platformer.news/meta-new-trans-guidelines-hate-s... Alex Schultz, the company’s chief marketing officer and highest-ranking gay executive, suggested in an internal post that people seeing their queer friends and family members abused on Facebook and Instagram could lead to increased support for LGBTQ rights.

jandrese 2y ago
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- dullcrisp 2y ago
  Ultimately, kind of. There were some bumps along the road though.
  - lesuorac 2y ago
    Kind of? More like absolutely no. The administration went on to go round up Jews and literally kill them. Co-incidentally, that administration was friends with a far away island nation that attacked a 3rd party who ultimately assisted with removing the administration from power for completely non-jewish reasons. And if somebody wants to point out the USSR's help with removing the administration; that was also not for jewish reasons.
    - dullcrisp 2y ago
      I was being facetious, sorry.
      - wussboy 2y ago
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      - eapressoandcats 2y ago
        I saw that, but that was a tough one to land.
  - NewJazz 2y ago
    Only a few million little bumps, no big deal...
- deadbabe 2y ago
  A more recent example would be Gaza. People didn’t care till they saw images. Lately, the imagery has disappeared and people don’t care again.
  - deleted 2y ago
    [deleted]
  - nicce 2y ago
    > Lately, the imagery has disappeared and people don’t care again. It is sad. Not many even is aware that it is very intentional.
- Karrot_Kream 2y ago
  [flagged]
spondylosaurus 2y ago
And a marketer too! My god. Kind of an insane stance to take considering we've seen exactly what happens when queer people's friends and family members get pummeled with anti-gay and anti-trans hate campaigns... which is that half of them end up falling for it and turning on their friend/family members.
fzeroracer 2y ago
A company would have to put me at gunpoint to make me say something similarly as insane. I'd sooner quit and give the entire place a massive middle finger.
briansteffens 2y ago
Is there anything that couldn't be justified with this style of thinking? Would this person support legalizing murder since more murders might raise awareness of how bad murder is?
- wiseowise 2y ago
  Why would you compare hate comment posted online to murder?
01HNNWZ0MV43FF 2y ago
Bullies important part of playground ecosystem, says bully lol
say_it_as_it_is 2y ago
The world moved away from legitimate grievances to something else entirely. Hate speech in 2025 is not the same as it was in 2000. None for the better.

ceejayoz 2y ago

For anyone unfamiliar: https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/social-media/meta-new-hate-speech-rules-allow-users-call-lgbtq-people-mentally-ill-rcna186700 https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/social-media/meta-new-hate-spee... > “We do allow allegations of mental illness or abnormality when based on gender or sexual orientation, given political and religious discourse about transgenderism and homosexuality and common non-serious usage of words like ‘weird,’” the revised company guidelines read.

jandrese 2y ago
> common non-serious usage of words like ‘weird,’ Are they still mad over the couch thing?
- ceejayoz 2y ago
  "That's my secret, Cap. I'm always angry."
- pesus 2y ago
  They are always incredibly upset about extremely mild "insults". There's a 50/50 chance you get downvoted for pointing out their weirdness.
mossTechnician 2y ago
This is practically a guideline to people who want to deploy hate speech against other minorities on the platform: just make a topic "controversial" enough.
returntocollege 2y ago
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- deleted 2y ago
  [deleted]
segasaturn 2y ago
Additionally they've unbanned the use of some slurs, such as calling other people "retarded". Not a nice feeling having grown up with that word directed at me almost every day.

mossTechnician 2y ago

Is this a reference to the changed TOS or something else? The recent policy carve-out allowing "allegations of mental illness" towards LGBT people (but no other minority) definitely speaks to a lack of universality, but that's from Facebook itself: https://transparency.meta.com/policies/community-standards/hateful-conduct/ https://transparency.meta.com/policies/community-standards/h...

jsheard 2y ago
The Intercept leaked more detailed internal guidelines: https://theintercept.com/2025/01/09/facebook-instagram-meta-hate-speech-content-moderation/ https://theintercept.com/2025/01/09/facebook-instagram-meta-...
- elsonrodriguez 2y ago
  Holy shit.

jazzyjackson 2y ago

God save us if they're updating their KPI from "engagement" to "impact"

barbazoo 2y ago

"impact" can mean all things

praptak 2y ago

It is "everyone". Just like "all lives matter" is a deeply humanistic message about the sanctity of life of all human beings, nothing else.

spondylosaurus 2y ago
Ha. Of course.

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wmf 2y ago

Everyone will be insulted equally.