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Only 5 percent of US car buyers want an EV, according to survey

4 points by rntn 2y ago

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Mountain_Skies 2y ago
I'd be fine with an EV as a second vehicle. I used a friend's leased Nissan Leaf for a couple of months and it was great for running errands around town. I work from home so I don't have a commute but I have a side gig that requires frequent plywood purchases which makes having an older small truck practical. For making runs to the grocery store, going to the park, or just going out to socialize, something like the Leaf would be nice. That said, the added cost (and environmental impact) of an addition vehicle doesn't seem like it would make the lower usage of my ICE truck worthwhile.
cranberryturkey 2y ago
Until it’s cheaper nobody will buy them.
- toomuchtodo 2y ago
  Unlikely to get cheaper because of US tariffs on Chinese EVs, holding US consumers captive to Tesla and domestic legacy auto (although Kia is making a solid attempt). That said, the Model Y is still doing very well (best selling model in the US). https://wolfstreet.com/2025/01/03/ugly-charts-of-us-auto-sales-2024-stellantis-spirals-into-catastrophe-gm-toyota-ford-honda-rise-but-far-below-their-peaks-hyundai-kia-sets-record-ev-sales-10-despite-teslas-dip/ https://wolfstreet.com/2025/01/03/ugly-charts-of-us-auto-sal... https://wolfstreet.com/2024/09/20/tesla-model-y-now-a-hair-from-1-bestselling-model-closing-in-on-toyota-rav4-former-1-ford-f-150-is-3-stellantis-plunges-off-greed-cliff-ev-share-rises-to-9-0/ https://wolfstreet.com/2024/09/20/tesla-model-y-now-a-hair-f... https://www.axios.com/2024/12/19/cars-prices-inflation-suvs https://www.axios.com/2024/12/19/cars-prices-inflation-suvs
  - floxy 2y ago
    >Unlikely to get cheaper Is that referring to absolute price? Or inflation adjusted prices? I'm still cautiously optimistic that we'll reach EV price parity with ICE in 2026. https://www.kbb.com/car-news/study-evs-could-reach-price-parity-in-2026/ https://www.kbb.com/car-news/study-evs-could-reach-price-par... ...will be interesting for sure to see what prices are for new upcoming models, like the 2026 Chevy Bolt, the Kia EV3 and EV4, and the updated 2026 Nissan Leaf. And Toyota has recently just dropped the MSRP of the BZ4X by $6,000. https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a63204962/2025-toyota-bz4x-price-cut/ https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a63204962/2025-toyota-bz4x... Lots of incentives out there right now, like $7,500 on new Ioniq 5's, which also qualify for the Federal tax credit: https://www.carsdirect.com/deals-articles/2025-hyundai-ioniq-5-rebates-bring-price-below-28k https://www.carsdirect.com/deals-articles/2025-hyundai-ioniq... ...$7,500 in incentives for the 2024 Nissan Ariya, plus I've seen dealer markdowns of ~$4k on top of that. https://www.nissanusa.com/vehicles/electric-cars/ariya/deals-incentives-offers.html https://www.nissanusa.com/vehicles/electric-cars/ariya/deals...
    - floxy 2y ago
      ...and $10,000 in incentives on a 2025 Kia EV6, which stack with the $7,500 federal tax rebate as well: https://www.carsdirect.com/deals-articles/2024-kia-ev6-rebate-hits-10-000-off-msrp https://www.carsdirect.com/deals-articles/2024-kia-ev6-rebat...
- floxy 2y ago
  Ioniq 5 base model now cheaper than RAV4? https://www.carsdirect.com/deals-articles/2025-hyundai-ioniq-5-rebates-bring-price-below-28k https://www.carsdirect.com/deals-articles/2025-hyundai-ioniq...
hindsightbias 2y ago
> Indeed, the easiest way to convert someone to wanting an EV is by giving them a short test drive, where the advantages of electric propulsion become apparent. Perhaps something like those state policies that require an ultrasound before abortion. All car buyers must test drive an EV first.
floxy 2y ago
If only 5 percent of US buyers want an EV, why are the other 4% buying them? https://www.eia.gov/todayinenergy/detail.php?id=63904 https://www.eia.gov/todayinenergy/detail.php?id=63904

4 points by rntn 2y ago

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I'd be fine with an EV as a second vehicle. I used a friend's leased Nissan Leaf for a couple of months and it was great for running errands around town. I work from home so I don't have a commute but I have a side gig that requires frequent plywood purchases which makes having an older small truck practical. For making runs to the grocery store, going to the park, or just going out to socialize, something like the Leaf would be nice. That said, the added cost (and environmental impact) of an addition vehicle doesn't seem like it would make the lower usage of my ICE truck worthwhile.

cranberryturkey 2y ago

Until it’s cheaper nobody will buy them.

toomuchtodo 2y ago
Unlikely to get cheaper because of US tariffs on Chinese EVs, holding US consumers captive to Tesla and domestic legacy auto (although Kia is making a solid attempt). That said, the Model Y is still doing very well (best selling model in the US). https://wolfstreet.com/2025/01/03/ugly-charts-of-us-auto-sales-2024-stellantis-spirals-into-catastrophe-gm-toyota-ford-honda-rise-but-far-below-their-peaks-hyundai-kia-sets-record-ev-sales-10-despite-teslas-dip/ https://wolfstreet.com/2025/01/03/ugly-charts-of-us-auto-sal... https://wolfstreet.com/2024/09/20/tesla-model-y-now-a-hair-from-1-bestselling-model-closing-in-on-toyota-rav4-former-1-ford-f-150-is-3-stellantis-plunges-off-greed-cliff-ev-share-rises-to-9-0/ https://wolfstreet.com/2024/09/20/tesla-model-y-now-a-hair-f... https://www.axios.com/2024/12/19/cars-prices-inflation-suvs https://www.axios.com/2024/12/19/cars-prices-inflation-suvs
- floxy 2y ago
  >Unlikely to get cheaper Is that referring to absolute price? Or inflation adjusted prices? I'm still cautiously optimistic that we'll reach EV price parity with ICE in 2026. https://www.kbb.com/car-news/study-evs-could-reach-price-parity-in-2026/ https://www.kbb.com/car-news/study-evs-could-reach-price-par... ...will be interesting for sure to see what prices are for new upcoming models, like the 2026 Chevy Bolt, the Kia EV3 and EV4, and the updated 2026 Nissan Leaf. And Toyota has recently just dropped the MSRP of the BZ4X by $6,000. https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a63204962/2025-toyota-bz4x-price-cut/ https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a63204962/2025-toyota-bz4x... Lots of incentives out there right now, like $7,500 on new Ioniq 5's, which also qualify for the Federal tax credit: https://www.carsdirect.com/deals-articles/2025-hyundai-ioniq-5-rebates-bring-price-below-28k https://www.carsdirect.com/deals-articles/2025-hyundai-ioniq... ...$7,500 in incentives for the 2024 Nissan Ariya, plus I've seen dealer markdowns of ~$4k on top of that. https://www.nissanusa.com/vehicles/electric-cars/ariya/deals-incentives-offers.html https://www.nissanusa.com/vehicles/electric-cars/ariya/deals...
  - floxy 2y ago
    ...and $10,000 in incentives on a 2025 Kia EV6, which stack with the $7,500 federal tax rebate as well: https://www.carsdirect.com/deals-articles/2024-kia-ev6-rebate-hits-10-000-off-msrp https://www.carsdirect.com/deals-articles/2024-kia-ev6-rebat...
floxy 2y ago
Ioniq 5 base model now cheaper than RAV4? https://www.carsdirect.com/deals-articles/2025-hyundai-ioniq-5-rebates-bring-price-below-28k https://www.carsdirect.com/deals-articles/2025-hyundai-ioniq...

hindsightbias 2y ago

> Indeed, the easiest way to convert someone to wanting an EV is by giving them a short test drive, where the advantages of electric propulsion become apparent. Perhaps something like those state policies that require an ultrasound before abortion. All car buyers must test drive an EV first.

floxy 2y ago

If only 5 percent of US buyers want an EV, why are the other 4% buying them? https://www.eia.gov/todayinenergy/detail.php?id=63904 https://www.eia.gov/todayinenergy/detail.php?id=63904