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I don't use the domain blacklisting at all, encounter spam ~never, and almost always get what I'm looking for in the top 5 results. 1) Google now requiring spe

I don't use the domain blacklisting at all, encounter spam ~never, and almost always get what I'm looking for in the top 5 results. 1) Google now requiring special skill to use is a totally legitimate way in which Google is inferior 2) I'm actually quite good at Googling and know much of the advanced syntax -- still sucks as of a few years ago! Obviously people's mileage may vary, but if anyone else is reading this and hasn't tried Kagi: you should. It is unambiguously and inarguably worth trying.

throwaway290 2y ago
> I don't use the domain blacklisting at all, encounter spam ~never, and almost always get what I'm looking for in the top 5 results. I encountered spam with Kagi half a dozen times. It was labeled "trustworthy". It is 100x worse than just seeing spam. Having to pay for it just adds insult to injury. If there is a search engine it will be gamed. What we need is not trust the algorithm but have a good query mechanism. > Obviously people's mileage may vary, but if anyone else is reading this and hasn't tried Kagi: you should If your searches are uncomplicated and you are okay relying on algorithm without thinking, absolutely. buy it for your grandma and set it as her default search? 100%. But if you are a power Google user, you will be disappointed.
- llamaimperative 2y ago
  I don’t even know what “trustworthy” label you’re referring to, but also no, literally no one is gaming a search engine with like 0.01% market share.
  - throwaway290 2y ago
    I thought you use Kagi. It's the label on the right of search result. When I used Kagi it could change color depending on how good Kagi thinks it is (I also remember a bar indicator under it but maybe something changed again). You click on it and you can downrank/uprank the site. If I wanted to really have only good results I would have to do it every day. I'm sure it was good for Kagi because they used it for their crowd sourced ranking but I didn't feel good doing it and paying for the privilege. I left after I noticed that Google gets me mostly the same results. Plus I have more privacy and less tracking across all web if I don't need to leave private mode. > literally no one is gaming a search engine with like 0.01% market share. Kagi is a front-end for google and other search engines. Gaming google and bing is literally gaming kagi.

throwaway290 2y ago

> I don't use the domain blacklisting at all, encounter spam ~never, and almost always get what I'm looking for in the top 5 results. I encountered spam with Kagi half a dozen times. It was labeled "trustworthy". It is 100x worse than just seeing spam. Having to pay for it just adds insult to injury. If there is a search engine it will be gamed. What we need is not trust the algorithm but have a good query mechanism. > Obviously people's mileage may vary, but if anyone else is reading this and hasn't tried Kagi: you should If your searches are uncomplicated and you are okay relying on algorithm without thinking, absolutely. buy it for your grandma and set it as her default search? 100%. But if you are a power Google user, you will be disappointed.

llamaimperative 2y ago
I don’t even know what “trustworthy” label you’re referring to, but also no, literally no one is gaming a search engine with like 0.01% market share.
- throwaway290 2y ago
  I thought you use Kagi. It's the label on the right of search result. When I used Kagi it could change color depending on how good Kagi thinks it is (I also remember a bar indicator under it but maybe something changed again). You click on it and you can downrank/uprank the site. If I wanted to really have only good results I would have to do it every day. I'm sure it was good for Kagi because they used it for their crowd sourced ranking but I didn't feel good doing it and paying for the privilege. I left after I noticed that Google gets me mostly the same results. Plus I have more privacy and less tracking across all web if I don't need to leave private mode. > literally no one is gaming a search engine with like 0.01% market share. Kagi is a front-end for google and other search engines. Gaming google and bing is literally gaming kagi.