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Ah yes, Brave, the browser that highjacks websites to inject their own referral code, that's the right browser to use for privacy conscious people.

LightBug1 2y ago
What's your suggestion? Genuine question. I'm on Firefox.
- SlimyHog 2y ago
  Firefox.
  - jqpabc123 2y ago
    Ahh, yes. The browser that tags every install with a unique identifier.
    - NemoNobody 2y ago
      FF is too slow. Brave is where it's at. I do wish I paid for Brave but again - I don't see ads online so I don't what they do with my information anyways. I don't wonder about Google or Microsoft.
    - i_love_retros 2y ago
      Got any more info on this?
      - jqpabc123 2y ago
        https://www.ghacks.net/2022/03/17/each-firefox-download-has-a-unique-identifier/ https://www.ghacks.net/2022/03/17/each-firefox-download-has-... This data will allow us to correlate telemetry IDs with download tokens and Google Analytics IDs.
- NemoNobody 2y ago
  Fr, ignore these people and try Brave Browser. I care less about privacy than I do an annoying Internet. There NO ADS with Brave Browser - like I just DO NOT SEE ADS anywhere on the Internet. Anyone that has been using Chrome can't possibly care about privacy anyways and they can't know what I mean about ads online.
  - iLoveOncall 2y ago
    > There NO ADS with Brave Browser - like I just DO NOT SEE ADS anywhere on the Internet. There are no ads with any browser provided that you press one button and install a browser extension that blocks them. Brave isn't an issue regarding privacy, it's a security issue, see what I said on https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42656123 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42656123.
    - NemoNobody 2y ago
      I don't think you know what I mean about ads. The pages are setup different on Chrome and Google inserts ads into everything, over the website itself, it doesn't matter what content you are viewing, you just need to be viewing anything. There are no ads on Brave. Not on the side of the pages, not in the middle the content scroll, not behind the content scroll, not before or after - no ads. If you use pirate streaming sites - I rarely, rarely have a popup ad on those when I do use them. It's not just ads, it's all about the user with Brave - most sites open in reader mode, I have to actually select to see the website itself, otherwise I just get all the content I want by default and only that content. I have 2 different compromised gmails - both of which happened during my years using Chrome, tho one was the Experian hack I'm pretty sure, Google is not secure, I don't know why anyone would ever think that.
      - iLoveOncall 2y ago
        I never have any ads whatsoever on any website that I visit. I legitimately cannot understand what you're talking about. Pages on Chrome and Brave look exactly the same. Seems like a user issue.
NemoNobody 2y ago
Well, I don't know what they do with it bc I do not see ads on Brave Browser - it's an entirely different Internet.
- jqpabc123 2y ago
  They use it for BAT tokens. You can "opt-in" to viewing some ads in exchange for crypto. Don't opt-in and enjoy an ad free experience.
  - iLoveOncall 2y ago
    No, it's not that. Brave was caught inserting their own referral code in signup forms on websites. This is basically exactly what Honey is doing and under fire for right now. Brave basically does a man-in-the-middle attack on those websites. This goes MUCH further than just a privacy issue, it's a security issue. I don't care about privacy, it doesn't exist, and I use Chrome. But I won't compromise my security by using a browser that is happy to pirate the pages I view.
  - NemoNobody 2y ago
    Oh, I suppose I do see some ads. Every now and then there will be a little popup recommending something - occasionally it's something even relevant. It's funny bc those ads are from Brave but they don't use the Browser, they come thru as desktop notifications and I only see them there. I do have an ad blocker that has always been on also, so I maybe augmenting the Brave experience a little but I just don't see ads online. I use Edge occasionally - which is far superior to Google and I don't kno how ppl deal with browsing the Internet like that, it's wildly frustrating.
pseudo0 2y ago
They were adding their own referral code to queries made in the search bar, not replacing or altering referral codes on websites. They apologized and reversed this after criticism back in 2020 (https://brave.com/blog/referral-codes-in-suggested-sites/ https://brave.com/blog/referral-codes-in-suggested-sites/). Overall Brave is pretty good, they build in ad-blocking by default and their own ad service is opt-in. They also have Tor and IPFS support that does not exist in Chromium, and are maintaining Manifest V2 support.
yjftsjthsd-h 2y ago
So... humor me... let's say that this is exactly true, and Brave adds or replaces referral codes. Is that a privacy problem? The only information that the website gets is that you're using Brave, but not where you got the link. We can absolutely talk about the ethics of the thing or such, but I can't see why privacy conscious people would care.
- iLoveOncall 2y ago
  No, it's a security problem, which is much worse.
  - yjftsjthsd-h 2y ago
    Okay, then what's the security problem? What attacker does it enable, and what does it let them do?
    - iLoveOncall 2y ago
      The security problem is your very browser is performing man-in-the-middle attacks on you???

LightBug1 2y ago

What's your suggestion? Genuine question. I'm on Firefox.

SlimyHog 2y ago
Firefox.
- jqpabc123 2y ago
  Ahh, yes. The browser that tags every install with a unique identifier.
  - NemoNobody 2y ago
    FF is too slow. Brave is where it's at. I do wish I paid for Brave but again - I don't see ads online so I don't what they do with my information anyways. I don't wonder about Google or Microsoft.
  - i_love_retros 2y ago
    Got any more info on this?
    - jqpabc123 2y ago
      https://www.ghacks.net/2022/03/17/each-firefox-download-has-a-unique-identifier/ https://www.ghacks.net/2022/03/17/each-firefox-download-has-... This data will allow us to correlate telemetry IDs with download tokens and Google Analytics IDs.
NemoNobody 2y ago
Fr, ignore these people and try Brave Browser. I care less about privacy than I do an annoying Internet. There NO ADS with Brave Browser - like I just DO NOT SEE ADS anywhere on the Internet. Anyone that has been using Chrome can't possibly care about privacy anyways and they can't know what I mean about ads online.
- iLoveOncall 2y ago
  > There NO ADS with Brave Browser - like I just DO NOT SEE ADS anywhere on the Internet. There are no ads with any browser provided that you press one button and install a browser extension that blocks them. Brave isn't an issue regarding privacy, it's a security issue, see what I said on https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42656123 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42656123.
  - NemoNobody 2y ago
    I don't think you know what I mean about ads. The pages are setup different on Chrome and Google inserts ads into everything, over the website itself, it doesn't matter what content you are viewing, you just need to be viewing anything. There are no ads on Brave. Not on the side of the pages, not in the middle the content scroll, not behind the content scroll, not before or after - no ads. If you use pirate streaming sites - I rarely, rarely have a popup ad on those when I do use them. It's not just ads, it's all about the user with Brave - most sites open in reader mode, I have to actually select to see the website itself, otherwise I just get all the content I want by default and only that content. I have 2 different compromised gmails - both of which happened during my years using Chrome, tho one was the Experian hack I'm pretty sure, Google is not secure, I don't know why anyone would ever think that.
    - iLoveOncall 2y ago
      I never have any ads whatsoever on any website that I visit. I legitimately cannot understand what you're talking about. Pages on Chrome and Brave look exactly the same. Seems like a user issue.

NemoNobody 2y ago

Well, I don't know what they do with it bc I do not see ads on Brave Browser - it's an entirely different Internet.

jqpabc123 2y ago
They use it for BAT tokens. You can "opt-in" to viewing some ads in exchange for crypto. Don't opt-in and enjoy an ad free experience.
- iLoveOncall 2y ago
  No, it's not that. Brave was caught inserting their own referral code in signup forms on websites. This is basically exactly what Honey is doing and under fire for right now. Brave basically does a man-in-the-middle attack on those websites. This goes MUCH further than just a privacy issue, it's a security issue. I don't care about privacy, it doesn't exist, and I use Chrome. But I won't compromise my security by using a browser that is happy to pirate the pages I view.
- NemoNobody 2y ago
  Oh, I suppose I do see some ads. Every now and then there will be a little popup recommending something - occasionally it's something even relevant. It's funny bc those ads are from Brave but they don't use the Browser, they come thru as desktop notifications and I only see them there. I do have an ad blocker that has always been on also, so I maybe augmenting the Brave experience a little but I just don't see ads online. I use Edge occasionally - which is far superior to Google and I don't kno how ppl deal with browsing the Internet like that, it's wildly frustrating.

pseudo0 2y ago

They were adding their own referral code to queries made in the search bar, not replacing or altering referral codes on websites. They apologized and reversed this after criticism back in 2020 (https://brave.com/blog/referral-codes-in-suggested-sites/ https://brave.com/blog/referral-codes-in-suggested-sites/). Overall Brave is pretty good, they build in ad-blocking by default and their own ad service is opt-in. They also have Tor and IPFS support that does not exist in Chromium, and are maintaining Manifest V2 support.

yjftsjthsd-h 2y ago

So... humor me... let's say that this is exactly true, and Brave adds or replaces referral codes. Is that a privacy problem? The only information that the website gets is that you're using Brave, but not where you got the link. We can absolutely talk about the ethics of the thing or such, but I can't see why privacy conscious people would care.

iLoveOncall 2y ago
No, it's a security problem, which is much worse.
- yjftsjthsd-h 2y ago
  Okay, then what's the security problem? What attacker does it enable, and what does it let them do?
  - iLoveOncall 2y ago
    The security problem is your very browser is performing man-in-the-middle attacks on you???