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Apple was selling laptops with Thunderbolt before it used a USB-C connector and were among the first to sell them with Thunderbolt over USB-C. They were, as fa

by Lio 2y ago

Apple was selling laptops with Thunderbolt before it used a USB-C connector and were among the first to sell them with Thunderbolt over USB-C. They were, as far as I know, the first company to sell 27" monitors over Thunderbolt back in 2011. So Apple has been all in on Thunderbolt for years, they just persisted with the Lightning connector on iPhones. Phones mostly don't really make use of Thunderbolt bandwidth like laptops. They make use of the common charging standard of the USB-C connector. I've never been a fan of the Lightning connector but given they've been making use of Thunderbolt on laptops before most vendors considered it, saying the market has moved on without them is silly. The market moved to catch up with Apple.

jiehong 2y ago
Phones now record 8k at 120Hz, so that thunderbolt bandwidth is important, else you will wait ages to transfer that to your computer.
- Lio 2y ago
  Oh I'm with you on that. I think it was a great improvement to get Thunderbolt over USB-C on iPhone Pros. I just think it's a mistake to talk about the very latest Thunderbolt 5's bandwidth vs legacy Lightning as if Apple were still promoting it. It's like comparing Thunderbolt 5 to Firewire.
  - InsomniacL 2y ago
    > I just think it's a mistake to talk about the very latest Thunderbolt 5's bandwidth vs legacy Lightning as if Apple were still promoting it. Apple are still promoting it https://www.apple.com/uk/shop/buy-iphone/iphone-14/6.7-inch-display-512gb-blue https://www.apple.com/uk/shop/buy-iphone/iphone-14/6.7-inch-... Apple also argued against EU regulation forcing USB-C adoption by the end of 2024. > It's like comparing Thunderbolt 5 to Firewire. I don't think it's fair to make that comparison. Given that we're only 10 days past the end of 2024, i don't think we would have iPhones with USB-C and 'non-legacy lightening' speeds like we do today.
InsomniacL 2y ago
Apple never used Lightening for laptops. The market i'm talking about is phones. > saying the market has moved on without them is silly Given they've produced nearly 2 billion phones with Lightening and are still producing/selling £1000 phones with Lightening, i don't think it's silly to say the market moved on without them.
- riobard 2y ago
  Which phone has Thunderbolt now?

by Lio 2y ago

jiehong 2y ago

Phones now record 8k at 120Hz, so that thunderbolt bandwidth is important, else you will wait ages to transfer that to your computer.

Lio 2y ago
Oh I'm with you on that. I think it was a great improvement to get Thunderbolt over USB-C on iPhone Pros. I just think it's a mistake to talk about the very latest Thunderbolt 5's bandwidth vs legacy Lightning as if Apple were still promoting it. It's like comparing Thunderbolt 5 to Firewire.
- InsomniacL 2y ago
  > I just think it's a mistake to talk about the very latest Thunderbolt 5's bandwidth vs legacy Lightning as if Apple were still promoting it. Apple are still promoting it https://www.apple.com/uk/shop/buy-iphone/iphone-14/6.7-inch-display-512gb-blue https://www.apple.com/uk/shop/buy-iphone/iphone-14/6.7-inch-... Apple also argued against EU regulation forcing USB-C adoption by the end of 2024. > It's like comparing Thunderbolt 5 to Firewire. I don't think it's fair to make that comparison. Given that we're only 10 days past the end of 2024, i don't think we would have iPhones with USB-C and 'non-legacy lightening' speeds like we do today.

InsomniacL 2y ago

Apple never used Lightening for laptops. The market i'm talking about is phones. > saying the market has moved on without them is silly Given they've produced nearly 2 billion phones with Lightening and are still producing/selling £1000 phones with Lightening, i don't think it's silly to say the market moved on without them.

riobard 2y ago
Which phone has Thunderbolt now?