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New Tesla Model Y. Thoughts?

• hacknew9 2y ago
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• quantified 2y ago
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  • jrhey 2y ago
    I just like their cars. It's not a political decision.
    • zfg 2y ago
      Any support of any of Musk's companies is now a political statement whether you want it to be or not. Musk goes out of his way to make it political. He makes sure there is no separation between his politics and his companies. It is what you're signing up for when you buy from his companies.
      • jrhey 2y ago
        Nah, I don't make political statements with my purchases. You're thinking too deeply about it. There must be separation because I don't experience politics when driving Tesla.
        • zfg 2y ago
          There is no separation. You're expressing politics whether you want to or not. Musk has politicized his public image and by extension his businesses, especially because he is the marketing department and public face of those businesses. The only way to avoid it is to avoid buying his products.
          • jrhey 2y ago
            Which politics exactly do you say I'm unknowingly expressing? This sounds like a very US centric point of view to have. Most people outside the US, like myself, don't hold these views of the Tesla brand. If this was the lens everyone saw the world through, they probably wouldn't buy any mainstream tech including the digital device you're typing this on.
            • zfg 2y ago
              > Which politics exactly do you say I'm unknowingly expressing? Musk's. > This sounds like a very US centric point of view to have. Musk is now part of the US government. He describes himself as "dark gothic maga" and "First Buddy" to Trump. > Most people outside the US, like myself, don't hold these views of the Tesla brand. Here is Musk directly interfering in UK politics. He is calling for the ouster of Kier Starmer, a change of leadership in Reform UK, and the dissolution of parliament among other even more extreme things: https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2025/jan/11/majority-of-britons-believe-musk-having-negative-impact-on-uk-politics https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2025/jan/11/majority-... https://www.forbes.com/sites/tylerroush/2025/01/04/elon-musk-pushes-for-britains-king-charles-to-dissolve-parliament-as-lawmakers-say-tesla-ceo-is-misinformed/ https://www.forbes.com/sites/tylerroush/2025/01/04/elon-musk... Here is Musk directly interfering in German politics. He has called the chancellor an "incompetent fool" and backs the AfD: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/dec/20/elon-musk-claims-only-afd-can-save-germany https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/dec/20/elon-musk-clai... https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/elon-musk-wants-weak-europe-says-germanys-vice-chancellor-2024-12-30/ https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/elon-musk-wants-weak-eu... Here is Musk advocating for the submission of Ukraine to Russia: https://www.npr.org/2022/10/04/1126714896/elon-musk-ukraine-peace-plan-zelenskyy https://www.npr.org/2022/10/04/1126714896/elon-musk-ukraine-... Here is Musk advocating for the submission of Taiwan to China: https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2022/oct/08/elon-musk-taiwan-china-special-administrative-zone-hong-kong https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2022/oct/08/elon-musk... If he hasn't mentioned your country, don't worry. He'll get around to it eventually. When you buy Tesla you are now buying into Musk's political actions whether you want to or not.
        • quantified 2y ago
          You might not feel it yourself but you get assigned it by others anyway.
          • jrhey 2y ago
            Well, that’s not a very good way to live — assigning other peoples’ political alignments based on their vehicle purchases.