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I understand your point, it's just not relevant. Consumers aren't doing any of that, nor are they going to. Expecting consumers to buy smart-home devices as a

I understand your point, it's just not relevant. Consumers aren't doing any of that, nor are they going to. Expecting consumers to buy smart-home devices as a whole system and integrate it into their structure is just not practical. The barriers to entry are too high. I'm glad you bought up Insteon. They're a great example of this, they failed commercially. https://www.pcmag.com/news/smart-home-company-insteon-shuts-down-servers-without-warning https://www.pcmag.com/news/smart-home-company-insteon-shuts-... I understand the benefits to the architecture you're advocating for. Personally, I started with X10 in 1995. But that simply isn't what people buy anymore. People are buying individual smart-home products, not integrated systems. The requirements of this program are to address the reality of the types of devices people are actually buying, and the security concerns that affect them.

ocdtrekkie 2y ago
I mean, fwiw, Insteon is in business today as a new entity. They're producing new hardware and all. It's viable enough a technology to have survived business issues that killed the company. I disagree with your assumption you understand consumers: Many prefer to buy all products from unified systems, and the complaints about how disconnected and disjointed having odds and ends are have led to Matter, which is struggling to solve the problem. The major players have all sold home automation hubs, and a lot of solutions still use them, but a lot of the hardware is still overengineered, has a short usable life, and creates security risks.
- kube-system 2y ago
  Yeah, people have gripes about all kinds of things that are commercially successful. A status-quo with a gripe is no less the status-quo. It is a fact that all of the top selling devices in this market overwhelmingly connect to WiFi directly. e.g.: https://www.amazon.com/Best-Sellers-Smart-Home/zgbs/smart-home/ https://www.amazon.com/Best-Sellers-Smart-Home/zgbs/smart-ho...

ocdtrekkie 2y ago

I mean, fwiw, Insteon is in business today as a new entity. They're producing new hardware and all. It's viable enough a technology to have survived business issues that killed the company. I disagree with your assumption you understand consumers: Many prefer to buy all products from unified systems, and the complaints about how disconnected and disjointed having odds and ends are have led to Matter, which is struggling to solve the problem. The major players have all sold home automation hubs, and a lot of solutions still use them, but a lot of the hardware is still overengineered, has a short usable life, and creates security risks.

kube-system 2y ago
Yeah, people have gripes about all kinds of things that are commercially successful. A status-quo with a gripe is no less the status-quo. It is a fact that all of the top selling devices in this market overwhelmingly connect to WiFi directly. e.g.: https://www.amazon.com/Best-Sellers-Smart-Home/zgbs/smart-home/ https://www.amazon.com/Best-Sellers-Smart-Home/zgbs/smart-ho...