> It's making a site that I really like into something that I like a lot less - into just another battleground for a bunch of shouting people. FWIW I think it'

> It's making a site that I really like into something that I like a lot less - into just another battleground for a bunch of shouting people. FWIW I think it's already happened. The site has always been trending in that direction, but I think the Reddit and Twitter exoduses last year just hit the nail in the coffin. My guess is that a lot of the most argumentatively passionate folks from those sites are the ones that left. They saw HN as a last bastion for people who share their "values" and brought their argumentative culture onto this site. I find most posts here these days that aren't strictly technical (and even then, hot button technical topics too) have comment sections indistinguishable from those on any other big news/social media site like Reddit or The Verge. I'm glad there are old users on the site here who still want to keep HN curious, but I've mostly thrown the towel in. In all fairness there's nothing wrong with that. The only constant in life is change. Maybe our time has come and it's time to duck out of the Conversation into group chats like many before us.