I disagree with your definition of a “proper” rave. Not inclusive enough. There was loud rave music & ravers having a great time, ie it was a rave. Raves happ

I disagree with your definition of a “proper” rave. Not inclusive enough. There was loud rave music & ravers having a great time, ie it was a rave. Raves happened in secret and in the open. I went to both kinds. Pros and cons to both.