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It's so so hard not to be cynical. I read posts like this and it gives me a glimmer of hope, and reminds me that there are good people of means out there trying

It's so so hard not to be cynical. I read posts like this and it gives me a glimmer of hope, and reminds me that there are good people of means out there trying to make humanity better. But then I also remember that there are much richer, more powerful ghouls out there whose seemingly sole purpose is to enrich themselves and their cronies at the expense of society. The answer, of course, is to praise efforts like this one and not allow cynicism to undermine the effort. A groundswell of support begets a movement. "Apes together strong", and all that. Anyway, were I ever to come into significant wealth, I think and hope I would do the same. Until then, I'm simply working towards a decent retirement and intent on remaining in an ever-shrinking middle class.

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Simon_O_Rourke 2y ago
> It's so so hard not to be cynical. Certainly would agree with that, however you'll have plenty who would suggest that helping others achieve the American dream isn't part of their worldview, or indeed their interpretation of that American dream.
- jaybrendansmith 2y ago
  And yet they benefitted by it. They seem to be fine pulling the ladder up behind them. That just shows poor character. If our society starts again to make character more important than wealth or charm, we might have a society worth saving.
FrustratedMonky 2y ago
"Apes together strong" Even Koba learned to hate. And, despite the last movie ending on uplifting note, the very end showed the humans in a bunker ready to attack again. Nothing survives the fight for resources. In-Group/Out-Group. It will take some real tragedy to bring Left/Right back together. Like a real (more severe) virus where Republicans are like "wow, we be dying, I'm all for distancing now, get away from me, where are the scientists, give me a mask".
- cindycindy 2y ago
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  - throw0101c 2y ago
    > Millions have died from their addiction, which is to say there are plenty of people who would choose death over change. There are people who would rather be ill and die themselves rather than let the "wrong people" get something that they "don't deserve": * https://www.dyingofwhiteness.com https://www.dyingofwhiteness.com * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dying_of_Whiteness https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dying_of_Whiteness
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- p3rls 2y ago
  It's funny in these political unity fantasies it's only the right making compromises even after their landslide victory
  - FrustratedMonky 2y ago
    You can have a mass population be wrong. A 'small' margin victory doesn't mean they are correct about everything, like laws of physics can change because the population is delusional. Covid was just harmless enough to allow them to perpetuate their delusions. But a more severe virus, where they can actually see people dying next to them, it couldn't be ignored, would wake them up.
dennis_jeeves2 2y ago
>there are good people of means out there trying to make humanity better. They are certainly good, but naive(In some sense I'm happy that they are naive). The quality of our lives settles down to the lowest common denominator. Good, smart people do make a difference but generally these are blips of good times compared to vast stretches of bad times.

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Simon_O_Rourke 2y ago

> It's so so hard not to be cynical. Certainly would agree with that, however you'll have plenty who would suggest that helping others achieve the American dream isn't part of their worldview, or indeed their interpretation of that American dream.

jaybrendansmith 2y ago
And yet they benefitted by it. They seem to be fine pulling the ladder up behind them. That just shows poor character. If our society starts again to make character more important than wealth or charm, we might have a society worth saving.

FrustratedMonky 2y ago

"Apes together strong" Even Koba learned to hate. And, despite the last movie ending on uplifting note, the very end showed the humans in a bunker ready to attack again. Nothing survives the fight for resources. In-Group/Out-Group. It will take some real tragedy to bring Left/Right back together. Like a real (more severe) virus where Republicans are like "wow, we be dying, I'm all for distancing now, get away from me, where are the scientists, give me a mask".

cindycindy 2y ago
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- throw0101c 2y ago
  > Millions have died from their addiction, which is to say there are plenty of people who would choose death over change. There are people who would rather be ill and die themselves rather than let the "wrong people" get something that they "don't deserve": * https://www.dyingofwhiteness.com https://www.dyingofwhiteness.com * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dying_of_Whiteness https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dying_of_Whiteness
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p3rls 2y ago
It's funny in these political unity fantasies it's only the right making compromises even after their landslide victory
- FrustratedMonky 2y ago
  You can have a mass population be wrong. A 'small' margin victory doesn't mean they are correct about everything, like laws of physics can change because the population is delusional. Covid was just harmless enough to allow them to perpetuate their delusions. But a more severe virus, where they can actually see people dying next to them, it couldn't be ignored, would wake them up.

dennis_jeeves2 2y ago

>there are good people of means out there trying to make humanity better. They are certainly good, but naive(In some sense I'm happy that they are naive). The quality of our lives settles down to the lowest common denominator. Good, smart people do make a difference but generally these are blips of good times compared to vast stretches of bad times.