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One problem is if you are on a freeway, you can't just stop. Also passenger might be inebriated and randomly push the button. While I agree with you on princi
by dist-epoch 2y ago
One problem is if you are on a freeway, you can't just stop.
Also passenger might be inebriated and randomly push the button.
While I agree with you on principle, it's a hard problem to solve.
- kragen 2y agoYes, I agree that pushing the E-stop button is not free of risk. But it's a risk under the control of the person who will suffer most of the consequences.
- crazygringo 2y agoThat's not true. If you're on the freeway you could wind up killing multiple people behind you. It could be extremely dangerous.
- belter 2y ago> It could be extremely dangerous. You are on a beta, experimental, self driving vehicle. The time to update your life insurance has passed.
- alibarber 2y agoNo, I'm driving normally at 50 in the rain or whatever and some AI hype-wagon in front of me has slammed on the brakes and swerved across my lane. The CEO of HypeAI releases a heartfelt video in which they say they are truly sorry for my family's loss and by way of compensation offers them unlimited credits for HypeRides in select US cities conditions apply.
- kragen 2y agoIf the hype-wagon is swerving across lanes because of control software bugs, you definitely want the person in it to be able to hit an E-stop button so that it stops swerving after a finite number of lanes.
- thunky 2y agoHow is it any more dangerous than brakes on a traditional car? Anyone can slam the brakes in the middle of a highway. I'm assuming the e-stop button would not be right next to the blinker.
- kragen 2y agoIt's only dangerous to the people behind you if they are following you and each other far too closely. Also, the vast majority of multi-car pileups in the US kill zero people. In the record-breaking 168-car pileup two years ago in Louisiana, only 7 people died, an average of 0.04 deaths per vehicle: https://edition.cnn.com/2023/10/23/us/louisiana-fog-i55-crash-new-orleans/index.html https://edition.cnn.com/2023/10/23/us/louisiana-fog-i55-cras... Also, as multiple people have pointed out, all non-self-driving cars already have this feature; it's called a brake pedal. Providing it should not be controversial.
- hleszek 2y agoSorry, I'm afraid I can't do that, Dave, you're drunk.
- Zak 2y ago> Also passenger might be inebriated and randomly push the button. Modern societies are reasonably able to cope with potential misuse of publicly-accessible emergency equipment. Buildings have fire alarms. Airplanes have emergency exits with self-deploying slides. Trains have emergency brakes passengers can activate. Misusing any of these can create a danger to others and is sure to be very disruptive. People do on occasion, and face punishment for their actions.
- kragen 2y agoI didn't get arrested or fined, to be clear. I just got told not to do it again in a very stern voice.
- Zak 2y agoThat seems about right for a child doing that; an adult would probably be fined and kicked off the train.
- kragen 2y agoEmbarrassing as it is to admit this, I was technically an adult. In my defense, I thought it was an emergency. I was wrong. They didn't even kick me off the train. We were back on our way a couple of minutes later.