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What is the alternative? The results could be cached, but it's probably unlikely that they would need to be used again later, as I imagine most videos are watc

by _flux 2y ago

What is the alternative? The results could be cached, but it's probably unlikely that they would need to be used again later, as I imagine most videos are watched only once. Another option would be to upload the generated subtitles to some service or p2p, but I believe that would also problem (e.g. privacy, who runs the service, firewalls for p2p, etc).

CaptainFever 2y ago
OpenSubtitles as a cache, maybe? (With their collaboration, of course.)
- _flux 2y ago
  It seems like some kind of review process would need to be included to reduce abuse possibilities. But yes, that would be quite nice, if there are enough people who don't mind uploading the file names of the media they play (or some other unique media identifier?) along with the subtitles to that service—and with user credentials? It would certainly need to be opt-in, which makes one wonder if it would be much effective at all.
a3w 2y ago
VLC has a "check my media online" feature, next to "check for updates to VLC on startup" already. Could they offer subtitle downloads? Previously, that was used for mp3 album covers or something?
rvnx 2y ago
It can actually send to Google the information on what you are playing: https://github.com/videolan/vlc/blob/f908ef4981c93a8b76805ade15246981002affc9/share/lua/meta/art/01_googleimage.lua https://github.com/videolan/vlc/blob/f908ef4981c93a8b76805ad... and to their own servers: https://github.com/videolan/vlc/blob/f908ef4981c93a8b76805ade15246981002affc9/share/lua/meta/art/00_musicbrainz.lua https://github.com/videolan/vlc/blob/f908ef4981c93a8b76805ad... should could fetch subtitles as the same time ? edit: cf, what "a3w" says too.
- _flux 2y ago
  Downloading is still much easier to handle than uploading.
scarface_74 2y ago
Tangentially related: funny enough, this site was just submitted yesterday to HN - https://exampl.page/ https://exampl.page/ You can navigate to $foo.exampl.page and it will generate a website on the fly with text and graphics using AI. It will then save and cache the page. It’s admittedly a useless but cool little demo.
magic_smoke_ee 2y ago
Authoritatively-correct subtitles rather than distributed generation and/or publication by anyone and everyone, including AI. I don't know how many times I've seen subtitles that appear to be based on a script or were half-assed, and don't match the dialogue as spoken at all.
c16 2y ago
This is exactly the answer imo. We have subtitle files, which is in effect a cache. Process once, read many times. So while I'm excited this feature is now available, having high quality subtitles cached in one place and generated by AI is the answer imo.

by _flux 2y ago

CaptainFever 2y ago

OpenSubtitles as a cache, maybe? (With their collaboration, of course.)

_flux 2y ago
It seems like some kind of review process would need to be included to reduce abuse possibilities. But yes, that would be quite nice, if there are enough people who don't mind uploading the file names of the media they play (or some other unique media identifier?) along with the subtitles to that service—and with user credentials? It would certainly need to be opt-in, which makes one wonder if it would be much effective at all.

a3w 2y ago

VLC has a "check my media online" feature, next to "check for updates to VLC on startup" already. Could they offer subtitle downloads? Previously, that was used for mp3 album covers or something?

rvnx 2y ago

It can actually send to Google the information on what you are playing: https://github.com/videolan/vlc/blob/f908ef4981c93a8b76805ade15246981002affc9/share/lua/meta/art/01_googleimage.lua https://github.com/videolan/vlc/blob/f908ef4981c93a8b76805ad... and to their own servers: https://github.com/videolan/vlc/blob/f908ef4981c93a8b76805ade15246981002affc9/share/lua/meta/art/00_musicbrainz.lua https://github.com/videolan/vlc/blob/f908ef4981c93a8b76805ad... should could fetch subtitles as the same time ? edit: cf, what "a3w" says too.

_flux 2y ago
Downloading is still much easier to handle than uploading.

scarface_74 2y ago

Tangentially related: funny enough, this site was just submitted yesterday to HN - https://exampl.page/ https://exampl.page/ You can navigate to $foo.exampl.page and it will generate a website on the fly with text and graphics using AI. It will then save and cache the page. It’s admittedly a useless but cool little demo.

magic_smoke_ee 2y ago

Authoritatively-correct subtitles rather than distributed generation and/or publication by anyone and everyone, including AI. I don't know how many times I've seen subtitles that appear to be based on a script or were half-assed, and don't match the dialogue as spoken at all.

c16 2y ago

This is exactly the answer imo. We have subtitle files, which is in effect a cache. Process once, read many times. So while I'm excited this feature is now available, having high quality subtitles cached in one place and generated by AI is the answer imo.