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This probably depends more on what hardware is being used rather than the SoC itself. A bare RPi5 seems to idle around 3 W, which a bare N100 can absolutely (o
by formerly_proven 2y ago
This probably depends more on what hardware is being used rather than the SoC itself.
A bare RPi5 seems to idle around 3 W, which a bare N100 can absolutely (out)do (these are designed with S0ix/s2idle after all).
If you add gigabit ethernet, you'll add 0.5 - 2 W (depending on the controller).
If you add NVMe, you'll add 0-4 W - NVMe SSDs vary wildly in both their own power consumption and how they interact with CPU C-states and ASPM. Some SSDs prevent low C-states and thereby increase CPU power consumption a lot, for example (even in S0ix). This is generally true for every PCIe peripheral (including network controllers), but NVMe SSDs are popular troublemakers in this area.
I honestly don't believe any of the "N100 idles at 15 W" numbers. First of all, that substantially exceeds the power limits of the N100, by like a factor of three. So clearly the vast majority of that power isn't being dissipated by the N100. Seeing how N100 boards generally have only one heatsinked component, the power is dissipated elsewhere. Second, people rarely post their exact hardware and how they measured this. "Idles at 15W [because there's a spinning hard drive attached]" is not very interesting. Third, many of the N100 boards have ATX power connectors, and if you use any old ATX power supply, that alone can cause such a number. Fourth, if you're using a cheap power meter, many of them are still wildly inaccurate at the low end. And, fifth, as a reality check, even much older 1L PCs using actual desktop platforms, even with separate chipsets and all that jazz, don't idle at 15 W. Unless you're using Windows, then, maybe. But Windows can't and shouldn't be the yard stick for power efficiency.
- poulpy123 2y agoMy minipc idle (with nothing added) idle at 6W and works at 22w
- geerlingguy 2y agoFrom the 5 N100 systems I've run, they all idle between 5-8W, PSU inclusive (measured at the wall). The SoC might idle slightly lower, but I compare total system power draw when I test SBCs since that's the only fair comparison.
- magicalhippo 2y agoNow you made me want to hook up my N100 box to my lab PSU so I can get some accurate numbers of what it does and how it compares to the wall.
- formerly_proven 2y agofwiw I have a bunch of M720q's in the lab right now and these also idle at 6-8 W depending on what exactly they're doing (driving display(s) / headless / network). Except these are full-on Skylake-era desktop platforms, complete with a socketed desktop CPU and RAM and a separate chipset.