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I agree. The 2gb skew is borderline useless in most applications you wouldnt just use a pico these days. (I would even line a 32gb skew but realise that is un

by gunalx 2y ago

I agree. The 2gb skew is borderline useless in most applications you wouldnt just use a pico these days. (I would even line a 32gb skew but realise that is unreasonable for the current soc)

matt-p 2y ago
Yes, and there is cost in maintaining an extra SKU. It would cost about $3 to make the 2GB RPI5 a 4GB PI5, and you might save something close to that by removing a SKU. You then get a bunch of new applications (which need more RAM) for your SBC and your product sells more as it looks better value. On the whole that $3 is now looking like a bargin. I don't think 32GB is needed or sensible, so will disagree there.
- schappim 2y ago
  If you look at all their accessories, particularly the country-specific customisations for keyboards and power supplies, Raspberry Pi now offers an incredibly large range of SKUs.
- kruador 2y ago
  Actually $9 more to go from 2GB to 4GB, just for the RAM chip itself. See my reply above. 32GB is impossible at present. No-one makes a 256 gigabit (32x8) chip to fit in the same footprint, so then you have to do a new board design to support multiple chips, which might not be doable in the board's current footprint. Micron do a 192 gigabit (=24GB) chip but it's LPDDR5, rather than LPDDR4x, which I imagine the RPi 5's SoC can't drive.
  - matt-p 2y ago
    No, I can see in 10K volume it's a bit over $3, and RPI will be paying less for sure. Even if we look at farnell for a qty of 50.. https://uk.farnell.com/micron/mt53e512m32d1zw-046-wt-b/dram-512m-x-32bit-25-to-85deg/dp/3954472 https://uk.farnell.com/micron/mt53e512m32d1zw-046-wt-b/dram-... 50 - £9.29 EX VAT https://uk.farnell.com/micron/mt53e1g32d2fw-046-wt-a/dram-1g-x-32bit-25-to-85deg-c/dp/3652197 https://uk.farnell.com/micron/mt53e1g32d2fw-046-wt-a/dram-1g... 50 - £12.04 EX VAT Those are public prices (not even account price) for buying only 50, and there's ~$3 difference even there.

by gunalx 2y ago

I agree. The 2gb skew is borderline useless in most applications you wouldnt just use a pico these days. (I would even line a 32gb skew but realise that is unreasonable for the current soc)

matt-p 2y ago

Yes, and there is cost in maintaining an extra SKU. It would cost about $3 to make the 2GB RPI5 a 4GB PI5, and you might save something close to that by removing a SKU. You then get a bunch of new applications (which need more RAM) for your SBC and your product sells more as it looks better value. On the whole that $3 is now looking like a bargin. I don't think 32GB is needed or sensible, so will disagree there.

schappim 2y ago
If you look at all their accessories, particularly the country-specific customisations for keyboards and power supplies, Raspberry Pi now offers an incredibly large range of SKUs.
kruador 2y ago
Actually $9 more to go from 2GB to 4GB, just for the RAM chip itself. See my reply above. 32GB is impossible at present. No-one makes a 256 gigabit (32x8) chip to fit in the same footprint, so then you have to do a new board design to support multiple chips, which might not be doable in the board's current footprint. Micron do a 192 gigabit (=24GB) chip but it's LPDDR5, rather than LPDDR4x, which I imagine the RPi 5's SoC can't drive.
- matt-p 2y ago
  No, I can see in 10K volume it's a bit over $3, and RPI will be paying less for sure. Even if we look at farnell for a qty of 50.. https://uk.farnell.com/micron/mt53e512m32d1zw-046-wt-b/dram-512m-x-32bit-25-to-85deg/dp/3954472 https://uk.farnell.com/micron/mt53e512m32d1zw-046-wt-b/dram-... 50 - £9.29 EX VAT https://uk.farnell.com/micron/mt53e1g32d2fw-046-wt-a/dram-1g-x-32bit-25-to-85deg-c/dp/3652197 https://uk.farnell.com/micron/mt53e1g32d2fw-046-wt-a/dram-1g... 50 - £12.04 EX VAT Those are public prices (not even account price) for buying only 50, and there's ~$3 difference even there.