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Don't make me laugh. Apple started the war on Android and no amount of fanboy sophistry can change that fact.

eridius 14y ago
Sure. As long as you ignore the fact that Android itself was an attack on Apple. Eric Schimdt sat on Apple's board and effectively stole lots of valuable information about the iPhone so he could turn around and build Android on the back of Apple's efforts. Say what you will about patents, but Android itself was basically an attempt to rip off Apple. You're pretty much saying if I steal all your proprietary business information and use it to start a rival company, and you try to sue me, then I'm perfectly justified in claiming you attacked first.
- cageface 14y ago
  Android obviously borrowed from iOS, as iOS did from its many predecessors. Android today diverges significantly from iOS and the last few iterations of iOS have borrowed more from Android than vice-versa. Apple has forced the hand of Google, Amazon etc with their greedy and draconian rules. Apple is abusing a broken patent system to hobble a legitimate competitor while basically sitting on their ass for the last two years in the phone market. The iPad vastly outsells Android tablets because it's a better device. Android phones outsell the iPhone because they're better devices in many ways.
  - eridius 14y ago
    At this point I'm forced to assume you're trolling.
    - cageface 14y ago
      Just to make you happy I'm going to earmark sales of my iOS apps for my first Android development phone.
czr80 14y ago
Between 2009 - 2010 (from wikipedia) - Nokia sued Apple - Apple counter-sued Nokia - Apple sued HTC - HTC counter-sued Apple - HTC agreed to pay Microsoft royalties - Oracle sued Google - Microsoft sued Motorola (alleges Motorola breaking FRAND obligations) - Motorola counter-sued Microsoft - Motorola sued Apple - Apple counter-sued Motorola ... getting ever more complicated in 2011, 2012, ... I suppose depending on your tribal biases you can find good and bad guys in that mess, and cheer on your team. Good luck with that.
- cageface 14y ago
  If you can find an instance of Apple getting sued over anything in Android before Apple started suing the shit out of trivialities in Android you've got better eyes or a stronger imagination than me. If I've had any tribal bias up to this point it would have to be due to the fact that, at the moment, every single device I own with a processor was made by Apple and the food I eat is paid for by writing Obj-C code.
gte910h 14y ago
Microsoft also does (and makes $8 per android phone sold due to patents). You better be swapping to Linux to develop then.

Sure. As long as you ignore the fact that Android itself was an attack on Apple. Eric Schimdt sat on Apple's board and effectively stole lots of valuable information about the iPhone so he could turn around and build Android on the back of Apple's efforts. Say what you will about patents, but Android itself was basically an attempt to rip off Apple. You're pretty much saying if I steal all your proprietary business information and use it to start a rival company, and you try to sue me, then I'm perfectly justified in claiming you attacked first.

cageface 14y ago
Android obviously borrowed from iOS, as iOS did from its many predecessors. Android today diverges significantly from iOS and the last few iterations of iOS have borrowed more from Android than vice-versa. Apple has forced the hand of Google, Amazon etc with their greedy and draconian rules. Apple is abusing a broken patent system to hobble a legitimate competitor while basically sitting on their ass for the last two years in the phone market. The iPad vastly outsells Android tablets because it's a better device. Android phones outsell the iPhone because they're better devices in many ways.
- eridius 14y ago
  At this point I'm forced to assume you're trolling.
  - cageface 14y ago
    Just to make you happy I'm going to earmark sales of my iOS apps for my first Android development phone.

czr80 14y ago

Between 2009 - 2010 (from wikipedia) - Nokia sued Apple - Apple counter-sued Nokia - Apple sued HTC - HTC counter-sued Apple - HTC agreed to pay Microsoft royalties - Oracle sued Google - Microsoft sued Motorola (alleges Motorola breaking FRAND obligations) - Motorola counter-sued Microsoft - Motorola sued Apple - Apple counter-sued Motorola ... getting ever more complicated in 2011, 2012, ... I suppose depending on your tribal biases you can find good and bad guys in that mess, and cheer on your team. Good luck with that.

cageface 14y ago
If you can find an instance of Apple getting sued over anything in Android before Apple started suing the shit out of trivialities in Android you've got better eyes or a stronger imagination than me. If I've had any tribal bias up to this point it would have to be due to the fact that, at the moment, every single device I own with a processor was made by Apple and the food I eat is paid for by writing Obj-C code.

gte910h 14y ago

Microsoft also does (and makes $8 per android phone sold due to patents). You better be swapping to Linux to develop then.