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Given the mismatch between public sentiment and the reporting on all things Luigi Mangione, the establishment is really scared. Trying to scrub him from the int
by eptcyka 2y ago
Given the mismatch between public sentiment and the reporting on all things Luigi Mangione, the establishment is really scared. Trying to scrub him from the internet is really sending a signal that we can influence the c-suite as a class the way Luigi Mangione did, which is incredibly stupid - they are ultimately inviting more murder.
- thanatos519 2y agoIndeed. It's like they are stomping on a burning bag of dog poo left on their doorstep: https://www.jwz.org/blog/2025/01/most-wanted-ceo/ https://www.jwz.org/blog/2025/01/most-wanted-ceo/
- methou 2y ago[flagged]
- dpe82 2y agojwz has nothing if not opinions, and we love him for that.
- myvoiceismypass 2y agoFrustrating that we lazily have to still copy-paste jwz.org links in 2025. (DNA Pizza was one of my favorite things about living in SOMA in the before days)
- esperent 2y agoWarning on this link: visitors from HN will get served a nasty image instead of the article for some reason. Copy paste if you wanna view the article.
- tucnak 2y agoNasty image? This is poetry.
- esperent 2y agoPerhaps it's both? In any case it's intended to shock visitors from this site. Maybe we need that from time to time in our comfortable bubbles.
- tucnak 2y agoIf somebody's getting "shocked" by this, then it's having the intended effect as far as poetry is concerned. It's important reminder to what HN is, really, even though I would expect it to largely fall on deaf ears. Reminds me of “It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it.”
- mschuster91 2y agoInteresting. I suggested to dang some years ago to implement rel=nofollow, he did for jwz, but it seems like that's not enough anymore?!
- oneeyedpigeon 2y agoIt is nofollow, but wouldn't "noreferrer" be more relevant?
- wakawaka28 2y ago[flagged]
- mcmcmc 2y agoRead the article. Brian Thompson was a white collar crook, not a law abiding citizen.
- ashoeafoot 2y agoThat law abiding citizen openly cheered for the murder of the people as a business method.
- wakawaka28 2y agoDo you have proof of that? Look I know insurance companies are rarely eager to pay out. If they were, they would quickly go out of business or else have to charge you so much as to make the coverage pointless. Nobody would be allowed to be a CEO of a health insurance company for long if they "openly cheered for the murder of people" as you claim. The business involves tough decisions affecting the lives of people who are often deathly ill and/or mentally unstable. It's really easy to blame businesses for things that really aren't their fault.
- krige 2y agoThis it no run of the mill insurance company. This is the absolute worst insurance company, putting it mildly. I would really recommend looking into it first before trying to downplay what they did and continue doing.
- Aurornis 2y ago> Given the mismatch between public sentiment and the reporting on all things Luigi Mangione, the establishment is really scared Polling numbers (actual gauge of public sentiment) show a net disapproval for Mangione: https://stratpolitics.org/2024/12/unitedhealthcare-poll/ https://stratpolitics.org/2024/12/unitedhealthcare-poll/ If anything, the news media has been trying to push the Mangione debate and controversy at every chance, like the above article that was selectively written to highlight demographic groups that showed higher approval of Mangione first. Thinking that “the establishment” is a collective of all major companies that act in unison is conspiratorial thinking. Don’t think for a second that the news media wouldn’t hesitate to push and profit from the controversy.
- Cookingboy 2y agoAt the risk of sounding like a conspiracist, I absolutely do not believe any polling number from established institutions here.
- somerandomqaguy 2y agoI can believe it to some degree. Believing that what the killer did is wrong, and being unsympathetic to Brian Thompson's death isn't mutually exclusive.
- Al-Khwarizmi 2y agoThey don't even need to do anything especially conspiratorial, I would expect those polls to have substantial anti-Mangione bias by construction. Many people will want to avoid being on record as supporting a murderer, for fear of any consequences down the line. I know polls are almost certainly anonymous, but you need to trust the pollster to actually abide by that. If you have even an inch of worry, it's easier to just not answer (or answer insincerely) and move on.
- Glyptodon 2y agoPolls have not proven the most reliable in recent times. I can tell some folks avoid him as a topic, but I've yet to see anyone I know in any socioeconomic class or age group seemingly do anything besides avoid acknowledging him, express support, or express support with some kind of caveat.
- nejsjsjsbsb 2y agoC-suite are minions themselves but it scares the higher ups. Even Trump almost got taken out. It was damn close.
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- dang 2y agoPlease don't do this here.
- dang 2y agoPlease don't do this here.
- energy123 2y agoOnly 17% of all U.S. voters think the killing was "acceptable" or "somewhat acceptable", topping out at 41% among young voters, according to Emerson.
- redmerchant2 2y agoPolls are only as good as the pollster. Watch how “popular” Kamala was in polls because it was the “right” thing to say. Most people (including rich boomers) I know are at minimum ambivalent to Luigi with many actively supporting him. But if asked on record they would deny it.
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- roenxi 2y agoKamala did quite well in the election, it was close. In hindsight I don't think there was any particular evidence the polls were inaccurate. Poll-watchers like fivethirtyeight.com predicted that the election was a coin toss (with the toss sliiightly biased towards Trump up until their final forecasts from what I recall) but whoever won the coin toss would probably achieve a comfortable victory. That is pretty much what transpired.
- throwaway48476 2y agoThen why the disparity with private polling.
- roenxi 2y agoIf you want me to refer to private polling you're going to need to hint which poll you mean. I'm working off public data which was pretty accurate on aggregate, there weren't any surprises on election night which was something of a https://www.xkcd.com/1131/ https://www.xkcd.com/1131/ moment. Eyeballing https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2024-election-forecast/ https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2024-election-forecast/ it looks to be in 1-sigma territory or maybe just venturing in to 2-sigmas.