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So the police budget is 2B. The fire budget is ~800M. Pretty significant by itself. You keep throwing around this 23M number like a 3% change would make a mat

So the police budget is 2B. The fire budget is ~800M. Pretty significant by itself. You keep throwing around this 23M number like a 3% change would make a material impact on 3 fast-spreading huge fires in worst-case-scenario conditions. What do you think the budget would need to be to handle this? In a scenario that goes deep, such as how water pressure is low because of how much demand is coming from so many hydrants? 100M more? 200M? 500M? 1B? Is committing to that much more annually the best solution here?

lightedman 2y ago
"You keep throwing around this 23M number like a 3% change would make a material impact on 3 fast-spreading huge fires in worst-case-scenario conditions." Take 23M and tell me how many firefighters that'd hire, plus equipment to support them. then tell me if that equipment would've been sufficient to at least contain the fires instead of having the damage we have now. Protip as a former Memphis FD Volunteer: Every damn dollar counts.
- defrost 2y ago
  It was a 17M cut from a greater than $800 million Fire allocation, not 23M. Of that: > The budget reduction, approved last year by Mayor Karen Bass, was mostly absorbed by leaving many administrative jobs unfilled, but that left about $7 million that was cut from its overtime budget that was used for training, fire prevention, and other key functions (see up thread peer comment for source) Further, with a constrained revenue and something like 63% of the entiire state budget going to Police and Fire it appears that the California Fire budget lost out a little to the California Police budget. There's the arena for fighting this out, a good old badge on badge bar fight over $$$'s.
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redwood 2y ago
Factoring in inflation, anything other than positive is already a cut and there was an explicit cut on top

lightedman 2y ago

"You keep throwing around this 23M number like a 3% change would make a material impact on 3 fast-spreading huge fires in worst-case-scenario conditions." Take 23M and tell me how many firefighters that'd hire, plus equipment to support them. then tell me if that equipment would've been sufficient to at least contain the fires instead of having the damage we have now. Protip as a former Memphis FD Volunteer: Every damn dollar counts.

defrost 2y ago
It was a 17M cut from a greater than $800 million Fire allocation, not 23M. Of that: > The budget reduction, approved last year by Mayor Karen Bass, was mostly absorbed by leaving many administrative jobs unfilled, but that left about $7 million that was cut from its overtime budget that was used for training, fire prevention, and other key functions (see up thread peer comment for source) Further, with a constrained revenue and something like 63% of the entiire state budget going to Police and Fire it appears that the California Fire budget lost out a little to the California Police budget. There's the arena for fighting this out, a good old badge on badge bar fight over $$$'s.
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redwood 2y ago

Factoring in inflation, anything other than positive is already a cut and there was an explicit cut on top