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That is that capitalist dream—all sales, no production expenses.
by Finnucane 2y ago
That is that capitalist dream—all sales, no production expenses.
- jimbru 2y agoIdeally there would be no sales expenses either
- cruffle_duffle 2y agoWouldn’t my business AI agent automatically talk with the salesforce AI agent and buy it automatically? Why would you need buyers or even sellers? Why even have humans in the loop at all for any business process or transaction. My understanding from all the magazines at my dentist office is that AI will replace the whole thing. What’s even the point of humans? It’s just AI bots jerking each other off all the way down! …now my head hurts.
- ArtemZ 2y agoThere is no point in having humans, ideally we should end up with just Elon Musk and fully automated resource extraction and entertaining infrastructure to please him /s
- bayarearefugee 2y agoThey never seem to talk about what happens when the the dream is ubiquitously realized and nobody is left to buy whatever it they are selling because their production expenses fund someone else's sales. At least it will be interesting to see which pushes civilization off the cliff first, end-game capitalism ouroborosing itself or the direct impact of climate change (which is obviously also related in any case).
- gruez 2y ago>They never seem to talk about what happens when the the dream is ubiquitously realized and nobody is left to buy whatever it they are selling because their production expenses fund someone else's sales. "If we replace 95% percent of farmers with tractors, who's going to buy all the food that's being grown?"
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- Terr_ 2y agoI'm guessing your intended subtext is something like: "eliminating jobs isn't bad or permanent since new kinds of jobs may be created elsewhere", but I don't think this satire/analogy works well. Historically speaking farmers didn't buy much food to start with, since they already had it or traded locally with their neighbors. It was everybody else (e.g. city artisans) who bought food, and they have kept buying it because all humans need to eat regardless of where--or whether--they are employed. Since bayarearefugee is talking about a scenario where the "dream is ubiquitously realized", that implies any new future job-categories are also eliminated. No jobs for repairing the foreman-bots that direct the repair-bots.
- ty6853 2y agoThere will always be jobs even if production increasing workers arent needed. If the capital owners can create massive wealth without labor they will always be willing to part with some of it to have concubines, personal chefs, chess trainers for their children, gladiators or whatever other nonsense gets their rocks off.
- bayarearefugee 2y agoNot really a clever observation on your part, this is the trite response everyone trots out but where it fails is in scope. We aren't talking about replacing 95% of a particular job (which has happened many times in the past over a long period of time), we are talking about replacing 95% of all people (in a relatively short period of time). And on top of that situation, we are also demanding unlimited growth. Good luck with that.
- downrightmike 2y agoMore like "If 93% of people only have 7% of the wealth, and 12 guys have the 93% of wealth, how are we going to sell anything?!"