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All I'll say is that moderation is a nightmare. I wish we all gathered offline more.

simple10 2y ago
Side note... Sometimes the sketchy ads are from account hacks. I've seen this happen a couple of times with business accounts. Hackers get access to a personal Meta account that has access to Ad Manager. They run a bunch of scam ads that go live because of the previous reputation of the ad account let's it slip by the AI moderation. The scam ads will run for a few days or more before Meta gets around to human moderation triggered by users flagging the ads. This usually leads to the ad account getting banned. There's a pretty huge ecosystem out there for hacking ad accounts. I would imagine it adds to the overall load on the human moderation process.
- alex1138 2y ago
  Could be! Apropos of absolutely nothing, Facebook accounts have proven very easy to hack so that's yet another argument for probably breaking the company up into little pieces
jimt1234 2y ago
This ^^^ I often thought of creating my own Twitter clone, but the biggest problem/obstacle I keep envisioning in content moderation. At the very least it's required for legal reasons - no CSAM! However, if you want to have a platform that isn't a cesspool, but still respects diverse content - well, that's just not easy, even in offline gatherings.
- thethirdadmin 2y ago
  Its literally impossible to create an online social media platform that wont degenerate into a cesspool. Neil Postman essentially said as much in his book Amusing Ourselves to Death. The very nature of the medium makes it impossible.
  - p3rls 2y ago
    Why are you participating in a cesspool? Sounds pretty gross. Truly the plebs cannot look after themselves with such a mindset and the yoke of Zuckerberg, HN, reddit and their crud-brethren must be smashed before the altar of progress. Rise up from your leet gamer chairs, those of you whose spines still have some shape to them. I shall retrieve my bagpipes.
dang 2y ago
There's this ongoing effort by HN user sirobg: Ask HN: What should I do with meet.hn? - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42410582 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42410582 - Dec 2024 (168 comments) Show HN: Meet.hn – Meet the Hacker News community in your city - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41539125 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41539125 - Sept 2024 (372 comments) I've been thinking for years about building support for offline meetups into HN itself somehow.

Side note... Sometimes the sketchy ads are from account hacks. I've seen this happen a couple of times with business accounts. Hackers get access to a personal Meta account that has access to Ad Manager. They run a bunch of scam ads that go live because of the previous reputation of the ad account let's it slip by the AI moderation. The scam ads will run for a few days or more before Meta gets around to human moderation triggered by users flagging the ads. This usually leads to the ad account getting banned. There's a pretty huge ecosystem out there for hacking ad accounts. I would imagine it adds to the overall load on the human moderation process.

alex1138 2y ago
Could be! Apropos of absolutely nothing, Facebook accounts have proven very easy to hack so that's yet another argument for probably breaking the company up into little pieces

jimt1234 2y ago

This ^^^ I often thought of creating my own Twitter clone, but the biggest problem/obstacle I keep envisioning in content moderation. At the very least it's required for legal reasons - no CSAM! However, if you want to have a platform that isn't a cesspool, but still respects diverse content - well, that's just not easy, even in offline gatherings.

thethirdadmin 2y ago
Its literally impossible to create an online social media platform that wont degenerate into a cesspool. Neil Postman essentially said as much in his book Amusing Ourselves to Death. The very nature of the medium makes it impossible.
- p3rls 2y ago
  Why are you participating in a cesspool? Sounds pretty gross. Truly the plebs cannot look after themselves with such a mindset and the yoke of Zuckerberg, HN, reddit and their crud-brethren must be smashed before the altar of progress. Rise up from your leet gamer chairs, those of you whose spines still have some shape to them. I shall retrieve my bagpipes.

dang 2y ago

There's this ongoing effort by HN user sirobg: Ask HN: What should I do with meet.hn? - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42410582 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42410582 - Dec 2024 (168 comments) Show HN: Meet.hn – Meet the Hacker News community in your city - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41539125 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41539125 - Sept 2024 (372 comments) I've been thinking for years about building support for offline meetups into HN itself somehow.