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> And specifically their appetite for the risk/discomfort that goes along with living in realtime physical moments with other people. The risk/discomfort laste

by znpy 2y ago

> And specifically their appetite for the risk/discomfort that goes along with living in realtime physical moments with other people. The risk/discomfort lasted just that night. Nowadays everyone is posting everything everywhere. No wonder youngsters don’t want to risk it. This is a form of social cooling in my opinion.

ethbr1 2y ago
When Facebook first took off, I had an inkling radical transparency was going to be a societal outcome. With everyone posting everything, and everyone's digital history recorded (if anyone cares to archive or dig it up), everyone would have skeletons in their closet. I was hoping that would make society more tolerant and willing to accept faults in people. In actuality, it just seems to have produced an industry of digital cleaners that the wealthy can afford, while everyone else gets fucked. But then, that's why I limit my posting on social media outside of HN.
- MichaelZuo 2y ago
  This seems like way too complex an explanation when a much simpler alternative is possible. Most people are simply not that virtuous, because by definition the vast majority of the population has to have mediocre virtues or be in that ballpark range. So ‘radical transparency’ reveals as much negative as positive, on average.
  - ethbr1 2y ago
    Sure, that's the first step. But the next step was how society would change (or not), suddenly realizing that most people are simply not that virtuous. Certainly not as much as their previously perception-dominant "best face" made them seem to be. Instead of accepting that, we seem to still be taking pot shots at leaders or prospective leaders for faults. Or... maybe Trump's twice electability is an indicator that most people are willing to overlook things, now.
    - MichaelZuo 2y ago
      Why are you assuming there must be a ‘next step’? The general population can just not care about a ‘next step’ on average…?
      - ethbr1 2y ago
        Typically when a core previous truth changes, society changes in response.
        MichaelZuo 2y ago
        Only if the median person cares about it past a certain theshold…
    - watwut 2y ago
      > Or... maybe Trump's twice electability is an indicator that most people are willing to overlook things, now. They are not overlooking things. They are looking at things and like what they see. There is segment population for which a credible accusation is seen as a good thing about a guy.
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CrimsonCape 2y ago
Girls are not as interested in nightclub substantial interaction anymore. "Substantial interaction" defined as "genuine attempts to meet a guy to go to the next club/bar/party and then maybe home" There's a whole separate realm of social circle snapchatting (networking). Not to mention swiping in dating apps.

by znpy 2y ago

ethbr1 2y ago

When Facebook first took off, I had an inkling radical transparency was going to be a societal outcome. With everyone posting everything, and everyone's digital history recorded (if anyone cares to archive or dig it up), everyone would have skeletons in their closet. I was hoping that would make society more tolerant and willing to accept faults in people. In actuality, it just seems to have produced an industry of digital cleaners that the wealthy can afford, while everyone else gets fucked. But then, that's why I limit my posting on social media outside of HN.

MichaelZuo 2y ago
This seems like way too complex an explanation when a much simpler alternative is possible. Most people are simply not that virtuous, because by definition the vast majority of the population has to have mediocre virtues or be in that ballpark range. So ‘radical transparency’ reveals as much negative as positive, on average.
- ethbr1 2y ago
  Sure, that's the first step. But the next step was how society would change (or not), suddenly realizing that most people are simply not that virtuous. Certainly not as much as their previously perception-dominant "best face" made them seem to be. Instead of accepting that, we seem to still be taking pot shots at leaders or prospective leaders for faults. Or... maybe Trump's twice electability is an indicator that most people are willing to overlook things, now.
  - MichaelZuo 2y ago
    Why are you assuming there must be a ‘next step’? The general population can just not care about a ‘next step’ on average…?
    - ethbr1 2y ago
      Typically when a core previous truth changes, society changes in response.
      - MichaelZuo 2y ago
        Only if the median person cares about it past a certain theshold…
  - watwut 2y ago
    > Or... maybe Trump's twice electability is an indicator that most people are willing to overlook things, now. They are not overlooking things. They are looking at things and like what they see. There is segment population for which a credible accusation is seen as a good thing about a guy.

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CrimsonCape 2y ago

Girls are not as interested in nightclub substantial interaction anymore. "Substantial interaction" defined as "genuine attempts to meet a guy to go to the next club/bar/party and then maybe home" There's a whole separate realm of social circle snapchatting (networking). Not to mention swiping in dating apps.