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So the claim "German perverts open bestiality brothels" was true in January 2013? Where were these bestiality brothels located?

• like_any_other 2y ago
  No specific locations are given. However: bestiality was legal in Germany up until February 2013 [0,1], and Germany still has its own zoophile advocacy organization [1,2]. The number of zoophiles in Germany is estimated at 100k by this interviewed zoophile [3]. Wikipedia estimates zoophilia has a 2% incidence [4], which would equate to 1.6 million zoophiles in Germany, making the 100k a conservative estimate. “The issue has become so public and inhibitions fall,” Astrid Behr, head of the German Association of Veterinarians, told Metro, indicating the growth of popular websites and forums, although she could not confirm the existence of rumored ‘pet brothels’. [3] The Berliner describes zoophile sex parties and a large internet forum where they are organized [5]. “There are even animal brothels in Germany,” [the animal protection official for Hessian state government] said [..] “The abuse seems to be increasingly rapidly, and the internet offers an additional distribution platform,” she said. [6]. So we have a mountain of circumstantial evidence, confessions, an expert statement, and a direct statement by a government official (both claiming the problem is growing) - the kind of statement PolitiFact treats as definitive evidence when convenient [7]. And of course, PolitiFact deftly implies that because something is illegal (or has extremely recently become illegal), that it therefore does not happen. I'm looking forward to their articles on the Aylesbury/Banbury/Bristol/Derby/Halifax/Huddersfield/Keighley/Newcastle/Oxford/Rochdale/Rotherham/Peterborough/Telford child sex abuse rings: "Actually, rape is illegal in the UK. We rate these claims false." I say looking forward, because currently, they have articles on precisely ZERO of them, somehow, despite what a scandal it was and is. But they do have "There's no evidence that Muslim immigrants are responsible for most of London's knife attacks" [8], so it's not that they ignore the UK. They just pick their battles. [0] https://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/02/world/europe/german-legislators-vote-to-outlaw-bestiality.html https://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/02/world/europe/german-legis... [1] https://www.metro.us/bestiality-banned-in-germany-zoophile-speaks-out/ https://www.metro.us/bestiality-banned-in-germany-zoophile-s... [2] https://www.zeta-verein.de/en/zoophilia/zeta-principles/ https://www.zeta-verein.de/en/zoophilia/zeta-principles/ [3] https://worldcrunch.com/culture-society/a-real-animal-lover-meet-the-man-fighting-to-keep-bestiality-legal-in-germany https://worldcrunch.com/culture-society/a-real-animal-lover-... [4] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zoophilia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zoophilia [5] https://www.the-berliner.com/politics/zoophilia/ https://www.the-berliner.com/politics/zoophilia/ [6] https://web.archive.org/web/20120205002624/http://www.thelocal.de/society/20120203-40531.html https://web.archive.org/web/20120205002624/http://www.theloc... [7] The secretary of state also said there is no evidence of widespread voter fraud in Nevada, now or ever. - https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2024/feb/23/sean-parnell/a-nevada-glitch-does-not-equal-mail-ballot-fraud/ https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2024/feb/23/sean-parne... [8] https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2019/feb/08/viral-image/theres-no-evidence-muslim-immigrants-are-responsib/ https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2019/feb/08/viral-imag...