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The host is clearly in poor physical condition and many of their concerns are due to lack of proper nutrition , exercise and prescription meds abuse. They appe

The host is clearly in poor physical condition and many of their concerns are due to lack of proper nutrition , exercise and prescription meds abuse. They appear 15 years older than they should be. Their advice is primarily reactive, and the trivial proactive advice (exercise more) is delivered almost ironically. Take care of yourself now. Drop the weight, get generous activity, get off the meds and you will feel loads better.

troyvit 2y ago
If you skim the transcript you'll see stuff like this: > [...] a big part of what I want to talk about is things you can do in your 20s in your 30s in your 40s in your 50s that lead towards you being able to do what you want which could be nothing or could be programming in your 60s in your 70s uh in your 80s [...] Further in she says: > it's really astonishing the minute you have proof, visual proof to strangers that your body doesn't quite work people assume your mind doesn't quite work. To her point, she's 63. We have no idea what she's seen in her life, what sacrifices she's had to make to get where she is today, or anything. What I see is that she is doing more about it now than most of us in this thread, and it might pay to look past her "poor physical condition" to see what she is conveying.
- tonymet 2y ago
  physical appearance is one of the most informative indicators of health.
  - text0404 2y ago
    this is easily falsifiable, since many diseases are internal: heart disease, low/high blood pressure, diabetes, cancer. also, most mental health issues do not present external indicators. bruce lee was at peak physical performance when he dropped dead. you could smoke cigarettes and take adderall nonstop and still look "healthy".
    - edgarischatting 2y ago
      Exactly. She's also gone through cancer.
  - troyvit 2y ago
    Physical appearance is also an informative indicator of age. Care to expand on what you think a 63 year old woman is supposed to look like? Any examples from Hollywood or Greek mythology that match what you're looking for here?
    - tonymet 2y ago
      We all know what a healthy person looks like from toddler's age. It takes mental gymnastics to argue otherwise. The fact that we can only think of a couple examples of obviously fit folks who had health problems, like the other chap tried to do, is an exception that proves the rule. Do yourself a favor and try to break away from the overly legislative mindset. Meaning is not bounded by words and definitions. The things that matter -- like true love, peace, happiness, health, contentment, and more-- are not bounded by rules and definitions. We all know those things when we see them. If someone presents themselves as an authority on health issues and how to cope with them, they should obviously be healthy.
      - smallmouth 2y ago
        Your post has great insight. I would just take ever so slight exception to your final paragraph based on two physicians I know that are 8n bad shape medically through no fault of their own. ;-)
        tonymet 2y ago
        Nothing in life is deterministic. That doesn't preclude things having meaning.
      - troyvit 2y ago
        Really? Nah. What does a 63 year old healthy single woman look like? What about a 63 year old woman who had four kids? What about a 63 year old woman who beat stage IV metastatic melanoma?[1] A "healthy" 63 year old person is going to look mighty different depending on the curves life threw them. So is it not overly legislative to bind a person's health choices to their looks when you don't have the whole story? I can look at her (and listen to her) and see healthy mind behind a body that has done decades of hard work. I hope that you can too someday. [1] http://www.gregcons.com/KateBlog/SurvivingIncurableCancer.aspx http://www.gregcons.com/KateBlog/SurvivingIncurableCancer.as...
Insanity 2y ago
100%. Not only does this help physically but mentally as well. My mental health improved by strides when I started exercising regularly.
ant_li0n 2y ago
Fifteen years older?! You think that woman looks 78? To me I'd put her in her mid-60s. She's 63. She looks like a 63 year old. I think part of the problem of this talk is that it introduces the fact that older people/people with disabilities are judged on their appearances instead of their capabilities (which, with respect, you have just demonstrated). Then the talk sortof goes off into a "how to age gracefully" direction and abandons that original line of thinking (disclaimer, I only watched the first 30 minutes so far). I definitely would be interested in addressing the first issue because, as they say, everyone becomes a old and/or disabled (unless like Tom Petty, you're dead).
- tonymet 2y ago
  yes i have friends and family in their 80s who look younger

troyvit 2y ago

If you skim the transcript you'll see stuff like this: > [...] a big part of what I want to talk about is things you can do in your 20s in your 30s in your 40s in your 50s that lead towards you being able to do what you want which could be nothing or could be programming in your 60s in your 70s uh in your 80s [...] Further in she says: > it's really astonishing the minute you have proof, visual proof to strangers that your body doesn't quite work people assume your mind doesn't quite work. To her point, she's 63. We have no idea what she's seen in her life, what sacrifices she's had to make to get where she is today, or anything. What I see is that she is doing more about it now than most of us in this thread, and it might pay to look past her "poor physical condition" to see what she is conveying.

tonymet 2y ago
physical appearance is one of the most informative indicators of health.
- text0404 2y ago
  this is easily falsifiable, since many diseases are internal: heart disease, low/high blood pressure, diabetes, cancer. also, most mental health issues do not present external indicators. bruce lee was at peak physical performance when he dropped dead. you could smoke cigarettes and take adderall nonstop and still look "healthy".
  - edgarischatting 2y ago
    Exactly. She's also gone through cancer.
- troyvit 2y ago
  Physical appearance is also an informative indicator of age. Care to expand on what you think a 63 year old woman is supposed to look like? Any examples from Hollywood or Greek mythology that match what you're looking for here?
  - tonymet 2y ago
    We all know what a healthy person looks like from toddler's age. It takes mental gymnastics to argue otherwise. The fact that we can only think of a couple examples of obviously fit folks who had health problems, like the other chap tried to do, is an exception that proves the rule. Do yourself a favor and try to break away from the overly legislative mindset. Meaning is not bounded by words and definitions. The things that matter -- like true love, peace, happiness, health, contentment, and more-- are not bounded by rules and definitions. We all know those things when we see them. If someone presents themselves as an authority on health issues and how to cope with them, they should obviously be healthy.
    - smallmouth 2y ago
      Your post has great insight. I would just take ever so slight exception to your final paragraph based on two physicians I know that are 8n bad shape medically through no fault of their own. ;-)
      - tonymet 2y ago
        Nothing in life is deterministic. That doesn't preclude things having meaning.
    - troyvit 2y ago
      Really? Nah. What does a 63 year old healthy single woman look like? What about a 63 year old woman who had four kids? What about a 63 year old woman who beat stage IV metastatic melanoma?[1] A "healthy" 63 year old person is going to look mighty different depending on the curves life threw them. So is it not overly legislative to bind a person's health choices to their looks when you don't have the whole story? I can look at her (and listen to her) and see healthy mind behind a body that has done decades of hard work. I hope that you can too someday. [1] http://www.gregcons.com/KateBlog/SurvivingIncurableCancer.aspx http://www.gregcons.com/KateBlog/SurvivingIncurableCancer.as...

Insanity 2y ago

100%. Not only does this help physically but mentally as well. My mental health improved by strides when I started exercising regularly.

ant_li0n 2y ago

Fifteen years older?! You think that woman looks 78? To me I'd put her in her mid-60s. She's 63. She looks like a 63 year old. I think part of the problem of this talk is that it introduces the fact that older people/people with disabilities are judged on their appearances instead of their capabilities (which, with respect, you have just demonstrated). Then the talk sortof goes off into a "how to age gracefully" direction and abandons that original line of thinking (disclaimer, I only watched the first 30 minutes so far). I definitely would be interested in addressing the first issue because, as they say, everyone becomes a old and/or disabled (unless like Tom Petty, you're dead).

tonymet 2y ago
yes i have friends and family in their 80s who look younger