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I find it really hard to believe this and am questioning the data. I raved back in the early 2000s and I still rave now and the popularity is absolutely boomin

I find it really hard to believe this and am questioning the data. I raved back in the early 2000s and I still rave now and the popularity is absolutely booming in a way I've never seen before and in more parts of the world. 15 years ago there was zero electronic music events in Dubai, now there are huge electronic music festivals there and it's clear a ton of people at those events are taking "something" that isn't just booze. Even Saudi has had its first big EDM festivals, albeit I think they were no alcohol allowed. EDM artists are more popular than ever and more and more of my friends are getting into EDM and going to EDM festivals like Tomorrowland, Mysteryland, ADE, etc.

barnabee 2y ago
Can an event that calls itself EDM be a rave? I sure hope not
brotchie 2y ago
I feel like they're conflating "rave" with "clubbing." Friday, Saturday club attendance has been dropping across the world, and many electronic music focused club venues have shut down (at least in Australia and the UK). My word association of "rave" is "festival" though. Festivals feel like they're still booming, or at least not in dramatic decline. From a small personal sampling: Coachella, Portola, Outside Lands, Proper, Lightning in a Bottle, festivals are still going strong. For some (Coachella, Lightning in a Bottle) attendance felt like it dropped 2023 -> 2024, but perhaps 10-20%, and this is likely economically correlated (inflation, etc). Late 2024- festivals (Portola, Proper) were packed.
- itake 2y ago
  > My word association of "rave" is "festival" though. hehe, my definition of a rave is a temporary venue where at least 2 people have asked if you need help finding Molly. There is a bisect of "festival" goers and "ravers", but many ravers are priced out of festivals, but may attend raves weekly or monthly. Both of these imho, are different than your traditional licensed club that primarily serves alcohol and is 21+ exclusive.
ninetyninenine 2y ago
The UAE is a microcosm and not representative of general trends imo.
- tayo42 2y ago
  I believe that, 15 years ago was peak deadmau5, skrillex, dubstep explosion, EDC expanding everywhere. No way globally its more popular now then it was in the 2010s
  - herbst 2y ago
    I was highly confused by that as well. EDM is (gladly) pretty much dead in the 'clubbing' scene I am in.
  - saberience 2y ago
    It's definitely more popular now. Unless you're still deeply in the scene you wouldn't see it, but there are so many massive acts now, far more than there were back then, and niche genres have become much more massive. E.g. techno artists can draw massive crowds and they never were doing that in the 2010s.
- Spivak 2y ago
  I mean music festivals in the US are booming as well. EDC attendance more than doubled last year.
seydor 2y ago
Dubai is a little behind

barnabee 2y ago

Can an event that calls itself EDM be a rave? I sure hope not

brotchie 2y ago

I feel like they're conflating "rave" with "clubbing." Friday, Saturday club attendance has been dropping across the world, and many electronic music focused club venues have shut down (at least in Australia and the UK). My word association of "rave" is "festival" though. Festivals feel like they're still booming, or at least not in dramatic decline. From a small personal sampling: Coachella, Portola, Outside Lands, Proper, Lightning in a Bottle, festivals are still going strong. For some (Coachella, Lightning in a Bottle) attendance felt like it dropped 2023 -> 2024, but perhaps 10-20%, and this is likely economically correlated (inflation, etc). Late 2024- festivals (Portola, Proper) were packed.

itake 2y ago
> My word association of "rave" is "festival" though. hehe, my definition of a rave is a temporary venue where at least 2 people have asked if you need help finding Molly. There is a bisect of "festival" goers and "ravers", but many ravers are priced out of festivals, but may attend raves weekly or monthly. Both of these imho, are different than your traditional licensed club that primarily serves alcohol and is 21+ exclusive.

ninetyninenine 2y ago

The UAE is a microcosm and not representative of general trends imo.

tayo42 2y ago
I believe that, 15 years ago was peak deadmau5, skrillex, dubstep explosion, EDC expanding everywhere. No way globally its more popular now then it was in the 2010s
- herbst 2y ago
  I was highly confused by that as well. EDM is (gladly) pretty much dead in the 'clubbing' scene I am in.
- saberience 2y ago
  It's definitely more popular now. Unless you're still deeply in the scene you wouldn't see it, but there are so many massive acts now, far more than there were back then, and niche genres have become much more massive. E.g. techno artists can draw massive crowds and they never were doing that in the 2010s.
Spivak 2y ago
I mean music festivals in the US are booming as well. EDC attendance more than doubled last year.

seydor 2y ago

Dubai is a little behind