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Because we need that compute for our React frameworks.

by qwertox 2y ago

halfmatthalfcat 2y ago
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- jacob019 2y ago
  Well, backend is our precious server resources and front end resources belong to the lowly user. It's a matter of scale though, frontend is optinized for one concurrent user. Plenty of small websites using slow and bloated frameworks on the backend because it's easy.
  - parpfish 2y ago
    Man, users are the worst. Sometimes I think that they only exist to stress out my precious beautiful servers.
    - moi2388 2y ago
      I agree. Those stateful bastards. I suggest we wrap them all into Monads. That’ll teach them!
- masom 2y ago
  Simple economics; who pays for the servers and who pays for the front-end execution? Front-ends are essentially free distributed computing resources while the backends need to be paid for.
- lelandfe 2y ago
  I have stopped mentioning frontend performance being my speciality on interviews as it has elicited tepid responses from all but one.
  - myself248 2y ago
    I imagine interviewing at McMaster-Carr to be a very different experience than Home Depot.
    - lelandfe 2y ago
      But also Apple, and Uber, etc. It was surprising.
      - myself248 2y ago
        (My joke was that McMaster's website is one of the fastest in the world, and Home Depot's is one of the slowest.)
        lelandfe 2y ago
        I'm well aware! :) McMaster-Carr's perf story is legendary, and is frequently cited as inspiration by other companies. I've actually done deep dives on both (Home Depot has other good qualities). ...Yet companies you'd think would be similarly obsessed with FE perf are, at least in the hiring stage, totally nonplussed by that background. C'est la vie.
- deleted 2y ago
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- madeofpalk 2y ago
  I don't think that is true of "HN". This thread, about how wasteful frontend development is, is a pretty standard trope in the comments here. Loads of developers everywhere, frontend and backend, go to lengths to optimise their programs. Loads of other developers also don't care.
- potsandpans 2y ago
  It's funny how some folks with no domain experience hn seem to be obsessed with html.
pjmlp 2y ago
Don't forget Electron as well.
- undersuit 2y ago
  My Chromebook all of the sudden needs compute to serve ads. RIP uBlock.
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dang 2y ago
"Eschew flamebait. Avoid generic tangents." We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42633787 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42633787.

Because we need that compute for our React frameworks.

halfmatthalfcat 2y ago

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jacob019 2y ago
Well, backend is our precious server resources and front end resources belong to the lowly user. It's a matter of scale though, frontend is optinized for one concurrent user. Plenty of small websites using slow and bloated frameworks on the backend because it's easy.
- parpfish 2y ago
  Man, users are the worst. Sometimes I think that they only exist to stress out my precious beautiful servers.
  - moi2388 2y ago
    I agree. Those stateful bastards. I suggest we wrap them all into Monads. That’ll teach them!
masom 2y ago
Simple economics; who pays for the servers and who pays for the front-end execution? Front-ends are essentially free distributed computing resources while the backends need to be paid for.
lelandfe 2y ago
I have stopped mentioning frontend performance being my speciality on interviews as it has elicited tepid responses from all but one.
- myself248 2y ago
  I imagine interviewing at McMaster-Carr to be a very different experience than Home Depot.
  - lelandfe 2y ago
    But also Apple, and Uber, etc. It was surprising.
    - myself248 2y ago
      (My joke was that McMaster's website is one of the fastest in the world, and Home Depot's is one of the slowest.)
      - lelandfe 2y ago
        I'm well aware! :) McMaster-Carr's perf story is legendary, and is frequently cited as inspiration by other companies. I've actually done deep dives on both (Home Depot has other good qualities). ...Yet companies you'd think would be similarly obsessed with FE perf are, at least in the hiring stage, totally nonplussed by that background. C'est la vie.
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madeofpalk 2y ago
I don't think that is true of "HN". This thread, about how wasteful frontend development is, is a pretty standard trope in the comments here. Loads of developers everywhere, frontend and backend, go to lengths to optimise their programs. Loads of other developers also don't care.
potsandpans 2y ago
It's funny how some folks with no domain experience hn seem to be obsessed with html.

pjmlp 2y ago

Don't forget Electron as well.

undersuit 2y ago
My Chromebook all of the sudden needs compute to serve ads. RIP uBlock.

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dang 2y ago

"Eschew flamebait. Avoid generic tangents." We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42633787 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42633787.