Before I moved to Berlin, I worked out of the Ruoholahti office as well (2005-2009) while in Nokia research. The same building had a lot of the maemo people as

Before I moved to Berlin, I worked out of the Ruoholahti office as well (2005-2009) while in Nokia research. The same building had a lot of the maemo people as well. Fun place to be at the time. I walked past there a few months ago when I visited Helsinki. Huawei has an office there now. And their presence there is not some coincidence. They were hiring a lot of Nokia people during and after the Nokia implosion. Probably lots of people in that building are former colleagues that also worked there while I was there. After I moved to Berlin, firewall ports were indeed a big part of the ongoing frustrations with getting shit done via Nokia IT. Of course, those issues got escalated via several layers of management and then resolved anyway. Part of the friction here was that the maps unit was basically something that came into being via several acquisitions. So, there were a lot of new people trying to get shit done being blocked by silly issues like this that lost patience with all that pretty quickly. Most of these Herculean efforts involved lots of non technical people from both sides having to have meetings with each other about a firewall rule until finally somebody high enough up the ladder inevitably told them to just "open the ffing port already and stop wasting my time" and forced the issue that way. I'm not paraphrasing here, I'm pretty sure that was a literal quote from a meeting; I know some people that got dragged into those meetings regularly. Anyway, enough egos were bruised and solutions were found that didn't involve having Nokia IT on the critical part to anything important. Which is how AWS happened. That went from "WTF? Can they even do that?!" to "well, that actually happened" to "Oh wait this is so much less painful! Cheaper too." in the span of a few months. There was no way that Nokia IT was going to be allowed to get back on the critical path to anything.