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is "Migrant" a euphemism here for "illegal migrant"? If your business needs illegal labour, then it's not a viable business, and it should die. If your pay is

is "Migrant" a euphemism here for "illegal migrant"? If your business needs illegal labour, then it's not a viable business, and it should die. If your pay is so low that no one wants to do your work, why should you be able to break the law with impunity because your business can't compete? Innovate, or die.

galleywest200 2y ago
Road construction could come to a halt in some portions of the US. It is estimated that ~13% of all construction workers in the US are undocumented. I would be willing to bet they are more concentrated in certain states (Texas). https://www.axios.com/2024/11/19/undocumented-workers-immigration-deportation-trump https://www.axios.com/2024/11/19/undocumented-workers-immigr...
- marcusverus 2y ago
  10% of American men aged 25-54 don't have a job and aren't looking for one[0]. The problem isn't a lack of workers, the problem is that Americans expect higher wages than illegals. If you kick the illegals out, wages will rise until Americans are willing to do the work. This is why Bernie opposed rampant illegal immigration before he sold out. https://www.businessinsider.com/men-not-working-unemployment-job-market-economy-housing-social-security-2024-6 https://www.businessinsider.com/men-not-working-unemployment...
- LAC-Tech 2y ago
  But who will build the roads? Sorry, just trying to summon libertarians.
rib3ye 2y ago
Would you rather your tax dollars were used to subsidize farmers or do you just want to pay more for food?
- collingreen 2y ago
  What's the difference?
- LAC-Tech 2y ago
  You know what would make farming even cheaper? Child labour. So would indentured servitude. Or why not consider slavery? After all we've established that we're fine with breaking the law so that certain industries have lower operating costs, so these should all be on the table. No one wants to pay more for food. Besides, child slaves do the jobs Americans don't want to do! You're socially immoral if you don't support it.
  - rib3ye 2y ago
    > why not consider slavery You just figured it out.
  - gregw2 2y ago
    > why not consider slavery We kinda kept it around in the guise of our prison labor system...
jldugger 2y ago
There are also legal migrant farm workers, FWIW.
Stevvo 2y ago
No, it is not. Try reading the article before attempting to so drastically change the framing.

galleywest200 2y ago

Road construction could come to a halt in some portions of the US. It is estimated that ~13% of all construction workers in the US are undocumented. I would be willing to bet they are more concentrated in certain states (Texas). https://www.axios.com/2024/11/19/undocumented-workers-immigration-deportation-trump https://www.axios.com/2024/11/19/undocumented-workers-immigr...

marcusverus 2y ago
10% of American men aged 25-54 don't have a job and aren't looking for one[0]. The problem isn't a lack of workers, the problem is that Americans expect higher wages than illegals. If you kick the illegals out, wages will rise until Americans are willing to do the work. This is why Bernie opposed rampant illegal immigration before he sold out. https://www.businessinsider.com/men-not-working-unemployment-job-market-economy-housing-social-security-2024-6 https://www.businessinsider.com/men-not-working-unemployment...
LAC-Tech 2y ago
But who will build the roads? Sorry, just trying to summon libertarians.

rib3ye 2y ago

Would you rather your tax dollars were used to subsidize farmers or do you just want to pay more for food?

collingreen 2y ago
What's the difference?
LAC-Tech 2y ago
You know what would make farming even cheaper? Child labour. So would indentured servitude. Or why not consider slavery? After all we've established that we're fine with breaking the law so that certain industries have lower operating costs, so these should all be on the table. No one wants to pay more for food. Besides, child slaves do the jobs Americans don't want to do! You're socially immoral if you don't support it.
- rib3ye 2y ago
  > why not consider slavery You just figured it out.
- gregw2 2y ago
  > why not consider slavery We kinda kept it around in the guise of our prison labor system...

jldugger 2y ago

There are also legal migrant farm workers, FWIW.

Stevvo 2y ago

No, it is not. Try reading the article before attempting to so drastically change the framing.