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Facebook has said it was pressured by the Biden administration to censor topic like covid. This is as clear cut first amendment case as you will ever find.

immibis 2y ago
And we all know that the first amendment can never be immoral, not even when a tidal wave of deliberate propaganda is causing millions of people to die.
- llm_trw 2y ago
  Yes, the lies the administration told about masks are one of the worst things done this century. There should be a reckoning for officials who lie to us for our own good.
RansomStark 2y ago
Your being down voted is amazingly ironic for a topic on the politicization of fact checking. There are hundreds of comments here talking about how objective facts exists and the correctness of fact-checking. You reiterate the statement of the Facebook CEO and what that statement entails and you are moderated. But facts are facts right? Zuckerberg did say Facebook was pressured by the Biden administration to censor covid misinformation, and the Hunter Biden laptop story [0], [1], [2] (multiple left-wing references for good measure). If Zuckerberg is telling the truth, that is a clear cut first amendment violation. A private company can censor whatever it wants (mostly) but not at the behest of the government, there's law against that. [0] https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/zuckerberg-says-the-white-house-pressured-facebook-to-censor-some-covid-19-content-during-the-pandemic https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/zuckerberg-says-the-wh... [1] https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/czxlpjlgdzjo https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/czxlpjlgdzjo [2] https://www.theguardian.com/technology/article/2024/aug/27/mark-zuckerberg-says-white-house-pressured-facebook-to-censor-covid-19-content https://www.theguardian.com/technology/article/2024/aug/27/m...
NCFZ 2y ago
If it's so clear cut then why did SCOTUS throw that case out?
- llm_trw 2y ago
  >Writing for a liberal-conservative coalition of six justices, Justice Amy Coney Barrett said that neither the five individuals nor the two states who sued the government had legal standing to be in court at all. https://www.npr.org/2024/06/26/nx-s1-5003970/supreme-court-social-media-case https://www.npr.org/2024/06/26/nx-s1-5003970/supreme-court-s... I short: because it wasn't Facebook that brought the case.
  - NCFZ 2y ago
    >She said they presented no proof to back up their claims that the government had pressured social media companies like Twitter and Facebook into restricting their speech. “Unfortunately,” she said, the Fifth Circuit court of appeals “relied on factual findings that are “clearly erroneous.” Those next two sentences from your article seem to contradict your assertion that it was because it wasn't Facebook that brought the case.

immibis 2y ago

And we all know that the first amendment can never be immoral, not even when a tidal wave of deliberate propaganda is causing millions of people to die.

llm_trw 2y ago
Yes, the lies the administration told about masks are one of the worst things done this century. There should be a reckoning for officials who lie to us for our own good.

RansomStark 2y ago

Your being down voted is amazingly ironic for a topic on the politicization of fact checking. There are hundreds of comments here talking about how objective facts exists and the correctness of fact-checking. You reiterate the statement of the Facebook CEO and what that statement entails and you are moderated. But facts are facts right? Zuckerberg did say Facebook was pressured by the Biden administration to censor covid misinformation, and the Hunter Biden laptop story [0], [1], [2] (multiple left-wing references for good measure). If Zuckerberg is telling the truth, that is a clear cut first amendment violation. A private company can censor whatever it wants (mostly) but not at the behest of the government, there's law against that. [0] https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/zuckerberg-says-the-white-house-pressured-facebook-to-censor-some-covid-19-content-during-the-pandemic https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/zuckerberg-says-the-wh... [1] https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/czxlpjlgdzjo https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/czxlpjlgdzjo [2] https://www.theguardian.com/technology/article/2024/aug/27/mark-zuckerberg-says-white-house-pressured-facebook-to-censor-covid-19-content https://www.theguardian.com/technology/article/2024/aug/27/m...

NCFZ 2y ago

If it's so clear cut then why did SCOTUS throw that case out?

llm_trw 2y ago
>Writing for a liberal-conservative coalition of six justices, Justice Amy Coney Barrett said that neither the five individuals nor the two states who sued the government had legal standing to be in court at all. https://www.npr.org/2024/06/26/nx-s1-5003970/supreme-court-social-media-case https://www.npr.org/2024/06/26/nx-s1-5003970/supreme-court-s... I short: because it wasn't Facebook that brought the case.
- NCFZ 2y ago
  >She said they presented no proof to back up their claims that the government had pressured social media companies like Twitter and Facebook into restricting their speech. “Unfortunately,” she said, the Fifth Circuit court of appeals “relied on factual findings that are “clearly erroneous.” Those next two sentences from your article seem to contradict your assertion that it was because it wasn't Facebook that brought the case.