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Sam Altman responds to his sister's claim of sexual abuse
- spockswrench 2y agoFor the record, I don't believe him and think it's disgusting for someone as rich and powerful as this to attack his sister publicly.
- gsibble 2y agoI've never trusted a word Sam says so I'm going to do the same thing here and believe his sister.
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- gsibble 2y agoJust read the statement. Looks very much put together by attorneys. Absolutely no need to air all of that publicly and disparage a family member. You have billions. Just give her a little and help her find peace if what you're saying is true.
- bag_boy 2y agoWhat’s the alternative?
- leotravis10 2y agoThe report from 2023 that eventually triggered the lawsuit: https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/QDczBduZorG4dxZiW/sam-altman-s-sister-annie-altman-claims-sam-has-severely https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/QDczBduZorG4dxZiW/sam-altman... Related discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38311509 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38311509 For the record, I believe in everything Annie says here.
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- gsibble 2y ago[flagged]
- echelon 2y agoI'm upvoting every one of these stories to test that hypothesis.
- gsibble 2y agoNotice they all got flagged. I.e. removed from the front page immediately.
- echelon 2y agoLast night there were a few threads about this story that had 30-40 votes and no flagging. Those should have made the front page. They were all under an hour old, some only a 15 minutes old.
- dang 2y agoThey didn't make the front page because users flagged them. It's common for sensational and/or outrageous stories to make the frontpage because those qualities attract upvotes. They also, however, attract flags. The latter take longer to kick in because many flags come from users who only see the story once it has made the frontpage. This tug-of-war between upvotes and flags is the core of HN's frontpage is determined. There are additional factors, such as moderation downweights (see https://news.ycombinator.com/newsfaq.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsfaq.html), but we haven't applied those in this case. In other words, all you're seeing here is very much a community verdict according to the standard rules by which HN operates. Sometimes people make grandiose claims about sinister censorship beyond that; but they're doing that because of their own priors, which for whatever reason cause them to misinterpret what they're seeing. None of this is secret, in the sense that people are always welcome to ask what's going on and we're happy to answer. Of course, you have to trust us enough to believe the answer, but that'll always be the case no matter what we do.
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- treebeard901 2y agoLife has taught me that you can't trust anyones memories when they suddenly change over time and the changed memories happen to carry with them a financial or personal benefit of some kind with regards to who the memories are about. Such as sudden accusations when someone you know comes into the kind of wealth that you see here. It's also interesting that his family is backing up what he is saying. Who knows. You just can never trust anything when a lot of money or ulterior motives are involved.
- spockswrench 2y agoDo you trust Sam Altman? If so, why? Life has taught me to believe abuse victims and Sam’s response here sounds like classic abuser gaslighting.
- f33d5173 2y agoWhat in life has taught you that? High profile abuse allegations are frequently false. Consider the duke lacross case, for which the accuser recently admitted to fabricating it. That isn't to say that such allegations are never true, but believing such allegations when all other evidence contradicts them goes against the experience of any honest person.
- bdangubic 2y agoHigh profile abuse allegations are frequently false. to make such an outrageous claim you should follow it up with more than one example dealing with college kids… bill cosby, weinstein, dany masterson… vast majority of high profile abuse allegations turn out true, not false… 100% not saying anything about this case as we are currently in he-said-she-said part of it but you claim needs more substance
- treebeard901 2y agoIt isnt about trusting him necessarily. Do you have a reason to not believe his mom or brothers? Does your distrust extend to them but not her? If so, why? We were not there so we dont know what happened. It is possible to look for motives behind the need to lie. Money motivates a lot of people. I saw pictures of them all. Taken recently. They do not portray the kind of response from someone who experienced all of this. I also do not believe anyone who years later, when motives change, suddenly remember things that they can use the way it is being used. While repressed memories are real, I do not believe they work the way it is being portrayed here. This is just my, probably unpopular, opinion.
- sidcool 2y ago"Never go against the family, Annie, ever"
- glitchc 2y agoIf this is true, it's horrifying. To dang: Why is this flagged?
- spockswrench 2y agoIt's flagged because he has a vested interest in flagging it. He censored my account so my upvotes don't work anymore as well.