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What about them? That they exist? No one disputes that. That illegal immigrants cause crime? We have hard data on that; it's not true. That they are a drain on
by greenthrow 2y ago
What about them? That they exist? No one disputes that. That illegal immigrants cause crime? We have hard data on that; it's not true. That they are a drain on society via social programs? We have data on that too; they get taxes witheld but cannot claim refunds and cannot enroll in social benefit programs due to their lack of SSN.
On any topic you want to pick it's typically the radical right wing who have their fingers in their ears.
- dgfitz 2y agoI think the bit where it’s illegal is the issue.
- greenthrow 2y agoNobody disagrees whether it is illegal. Whether it should stay illegal is the thing people disagree on.
- dgfitz 2y agoI think you made the GPs point for them.
- greenthrow 2y agoHow? Whether it should remain illegal is not a factual question. You are being deliberately obtuse to avoid admitting you are wrong.
- dgfitz 2y agoPeople are mad about a double standard: rules only apply to some people. This isn’t hard to grasp.
- greenthrow 2y agoWhat's hard to grasp is how you think this applies to a discussion about differing facts based on political leaning. Nobody disagrees with the facts here, only on what should be done going forward. So, not really relevant to the discussion.
- dgfitz 2y agoIf you see it that way, things will never change. I don’t care about immigration either way, I don’t have an axe to grind.
- immibis 2y agoThe people who think illegal immigrants shouldn't be illegal don't think anyone should be illegal. What's the double standard? It's not like they think black people should be allowed in but white people shouldn't.