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I think citric acid is better than phosphoric acid (e.g. for your bones and kidneys), though both can dissolve tooth enamel. OJ also has more vitamin C than ty

I think citric acid is better than phosphoric acid (e.g. for your bones and kidneys), though both can dissolve tooth enamel. OJ also has more vitamin C than typical sodas. Milk has more calories/ounce than soda, but it also has protein, fat, and calcium. Anecdotally, I find juice more filling than soda, milk even more so.

malfist 2y ago
Citric acid and phosphoric acid likely have the same impact on your teeth and no impact on your bones and kidneys. Acids and bases on your diet have very little to do with what pH is exposed to the rest of your body. Your stomach is probably more acid than anything you eat or drink, and your lungs and kidneys tightly regulate the pH of the blood. If your diet is effecting your blood pH, your probably already on death's door
- musicale 2y ago
  > Citric acid and phosphoric acid likely have the same impact on your teeth and no impact on your bones and kidneys "Recent findings show that increasing dietary phosphorus through inorganic phosphate additives has detrimental effects on bone and mineral metabolism in humans and animals. There is new data supporting an educational intervention to limit phosphate additives in patients with chronic kidney disease to control serum phosphate." "Cola is a unique source of additive inorganic phosphate that has been studied over the years in its effect on bone health. Cola delivers a load of phosphoric acid that is absorbed readily and rapidly and is often consumed between meals. A 20 fl. oz. bottle of cola, for example, provides 55 mg of phosphorus, whereas non-cola sodas are phosphate-free. In addition, cola may displace milk in the diet, so it can contribute to lower calcium intake concurrent along with greater inorganic phosphosphates intake (12)." But, you could be correct regarding bone effects: "It seems likely that any potential negative effects of cola on bone when it substitutes for milk in the diet would be driven by decreased calcium intake and other bone health nutrients (e.g. protein, vitamin D) in milk, rather than the difference in phosphorus load. This is because milk has about ten times the phosphorus content of cola by volume," Though I still wonder about possibly different effects from inorganic phosphorus additives in cola vs. naturally occurring phosphorus in milk and other foods. https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5693714/ https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5693714/
- davoneus 2y ago
  Intuitively, I suspect any acid is bad for your teeth. But I see that statement primarily from Dentists, and their track record in a number of areas is less than stellar. Prime example: Flossing and 6 month checkups. Neither of which have good scientific evidence, despite their widespread promotion.
  - musicale 2y ago
    6 month checkups (especially with expensive x-ray imaging) are scientifically proven to improve dentist income.
  - eru 2y ago
    From anecdotal evidence: when I stop flossing for a few days, my gums start bleeding. Not sure what suspicious extra super powers your dentist suggests flossing has?
  - cableshaft 2y ago
    I go every three months, and they have a good amount of tartar to clean off my teeth then. Also before I did that I was having pretty significant pockets for gum disease for all my teeth (it was close to the point where it's irreversible). It's mostly under control now, except for problem areas in two specific spots, but even those are still better than they were. I haven't really changed my dental hygeine habits other than going in for routine cleanings twice as often, so it's definitely helping.
in-pursuit 2y ago
Milk actually has a ridiculous amount of sugar. 11g per cup! That makes it hard to drink if you're trying to cut back on sugar.
- majkinetor 2y ago
  Lactose is poorly digestible though

malfist 2y ago

Citric acid and phosphoric acid likely have the same impact on your teeth and no impact on your bones and kidneys. Acids and bases on your diet have very little to do with what pH is exposed to the rest of your body. Your stomach is probably more acid than anything you eat or drink, and your lungs and kidneys tightly regulate the pH of the blood. If your diet is effecting your blood pH, your probably already on death's door

musicale 2y ago
> Citric acid and phosphoric acid likely have the same impact on your teeth and no impact on your bones and kidneys "Recent findings show that increasing dietary phosphorus through inorganic phosphate additives has detrimental effects on bone and mineral metabolism in humans and animals. There is new data supporting an educational intervention to limit phosphate additives in patients with chronic kidney disease to control serum phosphate." "Cola is a unique source of additive inorganic phosphate that has been studied over the years in its effect on bone health. Cola delivers a load of phosphoric acid that is absorbed readily and rapidly and is often consumed between meals. A 20 fl. oz. bottle of cola, for example, provides 55 mg of phosphorus, whereas non-cola sodas are phosphate-free. In addition, cola may displace milk in the diet, so it can contribute to lower calcium intake concurrent along with greater inorganic phosphosphates intake (12)." But, you could be correct regarding bone effects: "It seems likely that any potential negative effects of cola on bone when it substitutes for milk in the diet would be driven by decreased calcium intake and other bone health nutrients (e.g. protein, vitamin D) in milk, rather than the difference in phosphorus load. This is because milk has about ten times the phosphorus content of cola by volume," Though I still wonder about possibly different effects from inorganic phosphorus additives in cola vs. naturally occurring phosphorus in milk and other foods. https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5693714/ https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5693714/
davoneus 2y ago
Intuitively, I suspect any acid is bad for your teeth. But I see that statement primarily from Dentists, and their track record in a number of areas is less than stellar. Prime example: Flossing and 6 month checkups. Neither of which have good scientific evidence, despite their widespread promotion.
- musicale 2y ago
  6 month checkups (especially with expensive x-ray imaging) are scientifically proven to improve dentist income.
- eru 2y ago
  From anecdotal evidence: when I stop flossing for a few days, my gums start bleeding. Not sure what suspicious extra super powers your dentist suggests flossing has?
- cableshaft 2y ago
  I go every three months, and they have a good amount of tartar to clean off my teeth then. Also before I did that I was having pretty significant pockets for gum disease for all my teeth (it was close to the point where it's irreversible). It's mostly under control now, except for problem areas in two specific spots, but even those are still better than they were. I haven't really changed my dental hygeine habits other than going in for routine cleanings twice as often, so it's definitely helping.

in-pursuit 2y ago

Milk actually has a ridiculous amount of sugar. 11g per cup! That makes it hard to drink if you're trying to cut back on sugar.

majkinetor 2y ago
Lactose is poorly digestible though