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Grew up in Ohio. Always wanted to live in Silicon Valley. Been here 14 years now. Not leaving. But this is happening because of how terrible the California bran
by encoderer 2y ago
Grew up in Ohio. Always wanted to live in Silicon Valley. Been here 14 years now. Not leaving. But this is happening because of how terrible the California brand has become. Pretending our prestige and brand is the same as it was 20 (or even 10) years ago is not the answer.
- davidw 2y agoThat's a complicated topic, but part of that is because California has become a target for a number of people with money, influence and media outlets. Not to say it doesn't have problems - like housing - that are self-inflicted. Just that a big part of the 'brand' problem is people targeting the state.
- ethbr1 2y agoTechbros are pretty toxic, and that culture was very much SV 10-20 years ago. That said, most of them have since (loudly) decamped the state.
- encoderer 2y agoYes there is a lot of “unfair competition” but ultimately you build a brand by demonstrating your positive qualities and making it clear what you stand for. This is an us problem not a them problem.
- davidw 2y agoHow can you build that brand if someone is determined to tear it down for ideological reasons?
- encoderer 2y agoPeople care less about ideology than they do about their own lives and prosperity. It used to be clear: you can make a better life in California. It was a land of growth, prosperity, and wealth. Growing families moving into golden cul-de-sacs. We should actually make those things true again. Houses don’t need to be affordable in Palo Alto but not being affordable anywhere is a problem. We don’t need to develop Big Sur but not being able to develop any costal property is a problem. We don’t need to deport law abiding citizens because they fail an ICE sweep but not being able to deport career criminals is a problem.
- davidw 2y agoOh, I'm 100% on board with the housing stuff. That's what I do in terms of local politics here in Oregon. But by and large, the 'branding' is places like Fox News crapping on California.
- encoderer 2y agoNo that’s just talking heads carping on cable tv. The problem is that we have lost any ability to make a positive case for California outside of niche political interests and very specific career paths.
- tptacek 2y agoWell, that, but also the worst housing markets in the country.
- fooker 2y agoYeah I was recently given the choice to move for RTO to the bay area versus pacific northwest, and everyone I asked about this expressed their dissatisfaction with California.