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...how do you mean? What are you defining 'left of center' as?

• ethbr1 2y ago
  Parent was making an observation that the entire US political discourse, including both sides, tends to be right of global center.
  • devvvvvvv 2y ago
    Why would the political leanings of other countries matter in a discussion about the US?
    • ethbr1 2y ago
      Because the US is part of the world.
      • devvvvvvv 2y ago
        Not a discussion about "the world."
        • ethbr1 2y ago
          I can't tell if you're being obtuse or obstinant.
          • devvvvvvv 2y ago
            The political systems of other countries are irrelevant when discussing the United States.
• ternnoburn 2y ago
  The Left Right dichotomy is a fairly broad set of political ideas, especially globally. The Left typically includes socialists, communists, anarchists, labor movements, syndicalists, and social democrats. Typically, these movements are collectivist, whether that's collectivist in a big government or collectivist in small local communities. Classical liberal policies, looks those of the Democrats and Republicans, are right of center. An example, when was the last time the Democratic Party pushed for nationalization of a whole industry? Eg aerospace, rail, or energy? What about offering food and housing for everyone? Abolishing private property? Those are leftist policies.
  • svieira 2y ago
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    • ternnoburn 2y ago
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      • svieira 2y ago
        Not at all - I'm just confused about the whole left / right distinction being proposed by the OP, since "nationalization" was never (as far as I can tell) part of the "left" at least when we talk about _socialism_. National socialists were definitely interested in "nationalizing" things, but socialists were a little bit more broad in their interpretation of what they were doing with "the stuff that isn't property" (at least as far as I understand it). But maybe the OP was not talking about "what they thought they were doing" only describing "what they do / did"?
        • ternnoburn 2y ago
          I was articulating the sorts of things leftists often push for. Nationalizing industry is one such thing - holding industry in common good for the people is one flavor of leftist. You see that in Soviet style communism, for example. It's not the only way to be leftist. You can be leftist and anti central government, for instance. You cannot, however, be leftist and staunchly capitalist.