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I "trust" Wikipedia more than I do fullfact and so on. They've all overplayed their hand.

by mhh__ 2y ago

throw83838445 2y ago
You can not sue Wikipedia. You could sue facebook.
- chrisco255 2y ago
  Of course you can sue Wikipedia. There's no law against suing Wikipedia.
  - throw83838445 2y ago
    Wikipedia is just a platform, it is not a publisher. Facebook was the publisher! Suing Wikipedia would be like suing email and SMTP protocol!
    - amalcon 2y ago
      In the U.S. (relevant because it is home to the Wikimedia Foundation), you can sue anyone for any reason at any time. You might get immediately dismissed, sued back ("abuse of process" or similar), or something along those lines, but there is nothing structural that stops you. The structural reason that you can't sue email is that email is not an "anyone", it's an abstract concept. How would you even e.g. notify "email" that it is under litigation?
    - paulddraper 2y ago
      Neither email not SMTP are legal entities. Wikipedia (or more precisely, the Wikimedia Foundation that owns it) is.
- illiac786 2y ago
  I hope I don’t sound condescending, that’s not my intent, but this made me smile, it means you think Wikipedia is special. I like that. But, for the record, they regularly get sued. I think they are being seriously sued in India for defamation at the moment, for example.
  - throw83838445 2y ago
    But could you actually get any money from suing Wikipedia? They would just deflect blame to volunteer editors. Why do you think facebook is ending fact-checkers now? Editors are hired by facebook, facebook is the publisher. If facebook publishes "fact" and people get harmed as result, Facebook gets sued to bankruptcy. There is no protection from government anymore!
    - scotty79 2y ago
      > If facebook publishes "fact" and people get harmed as result, Facebook gets sued to bankruptcy. What a nice reality would it be where Facbook could be actually sued to bankruptcy for whatever reason, let alone such minor one. Sadly it's not our reality.
- mhh__ 2y ago
  I'm referring to the organisations that anoint themselves as arbiters of truth rather than just Facebook but I suppose the point almost stands
- causalmodels 2y ago
  You can absolutely sue Wikipedia [1] [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asian_News_International_vs._Wikimedia_Foundation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asian_News_International_vs._W... edit: My bad, I get the joke now.
StanislavPetrov 2y ago
>I "trust" Wikipedia more than I do fullfact and so on Philip Cross is very pleased to hear that!

I "trust" Wikipedia more than I do fullfact and so on. They've all overplayed their hand.

by mhh__ 2y ago

I "trust" Wikipedia more than I do fullfact and so on. They've all overplayed their hand.

throw83838445 2y ago

You can not sue Wikipedia. You could sue facebook.

chrisco255 2y ago
Of course you can sue Wikipedia. There's no law against suing Wikipedia.
- throw83838445 2y ago
  Wikipedia is just a platform, it is not a publisher. Facebook was the publisher! Suing Wikipedia would be like suing email and SMTP protocol!
  - amalcon 2y ago
    In the U.S. (relevant because it is home to the Wikimedia Foundation), you can sue anyone for any reason at any time. You might get immediately dismissed, sued back ("abuse of process" or similar), or something along those lines, but there is nothing structural that stops you. The structural reason that you can't sue email is that email is not an "anyone", it's an abstract concept. How would you even e.g. notify "email" that it is under litigation?
  - paulddraper 2y ago
    Neither email not SMTP are legal entities. Wikipedia (or more precisely, the Wikimedia Foundation that owns it) is.
illiac786 2y ago
I hope I don’t sound condescending, that’s not my intent, but this made me smile, it means you think Wikipedia is special. I like that. But, for the record, they regularly get sued. I think they are being seriously sued in India for defamation at the moment, for example.
- throw83838445 2y ago
  But could you actually get any money from suing Wikipedia? They would just deflect blame to volunteer editors. Why do you think facebook is ending fact-checkers now? Editors are hired by facebook, facebook is the publisher. If facebook publishes "fact" and people get harmed as result, Facebook gets sued to bankruptcy. There is no protection from government anymore!
  - scotty79 2y ago
    > If facebook publishes "fact" and people get harmed as result, Facebook gets sued to bankruptcy. What a nice reality would it be where Facbook could be actually sued to bankruptcy for whatever reason, let alone such minor one. Sadly it's not our reality.
mhh__ 2y ago
I'm referring to the organisations that anoint themselves as arbiters of truth rather than just Facebook but I suppose the point almost stands
causalmodels 2y ago
You can absolutely sue Wikipedia [1] [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asian_News_International_vs._Wikimedia_Foundation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asian_News_International_vs._W... edit: My bad, I get the joke now.

StanislavPetrov 2y ago

>I "trust" Wikipedia more than I do fullfact and so on Philip Cross is very pleased to hear that!