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Community Notes is the best thing about Musk's Dumpster fire. The problem with CN right now, though, is that Musk appears to block it on most of his posts, and

Community Notes is the best thing about Musk's Dumpster fire. The problem with CN right now, though, is that Musk appears to block it on most of his posts, and/or right-wing moderators downvote the notes so they don't appear or disappear.

kristianc 2y ago
The bad faith “NNN - just expressing an opinion” is a cancer on CNs too.
extraduder_ire 2y ago
Community notes launched at the start of 2021. It predates the buyout by almost two years. If what they said about their design is to be believed, political downvoting shouldn't heavily impact them. I wish it was easier to see pending notes on a post though.
- Analemma_ 2y ago
  Right, I think that's the parent's point: CN is a great design, dragged down by the fact that Elon heavily puts his thumb on the scale to make sure posts he likes spread far and wide and posts he dislikes get buried, irrespective of their truth content.
  - qingcharles 2y ago
    This. You're getting downvoted as bad as me LOL
- qingcharles 2y ago
  I agree, you should be able to see pending notes even if you're not a CN moderator.
  - extraduder_ire 2y ago
    You can see them, it's just that finding the button to do so on a post is difficult. I think you need to navigate to the post from the notes section of the website.
raphman 2y ago
I am not so sure that Musk or right-wing moderators are directly to blame for the lack of published community notes. My guess: in recent months, many people (e.g., me) who are motivated to counter fake news have left Twitter for other platforms. Thus, proposed CNs are seen and upvoted by fewer people, resulting in fewer of them being shown to the public. Also, I ask myself: why should I spend time verifying or writing CNs when it does not matter - the emperor knows that he is not wearing any clothes, and he does not care.
- netsharc 2y ago
  > the emperor knows that he is not wearing any clothes, and he does not care. Indeed the ending of the famous story is: > "But the Emperor has nothing at all on!" said a little child. > "Listen to the voice of innocence!" exclaimed his father; and what the child had said was whispered from one to another. > "But he has nothing at all on!" at last cried out all the people. The Emperor was vexed, for he knew that the people were right; but he thought the procession must go on now! And the lords of the bedchamber took greater pains than ever, to appear holding up a train, although, in reality, there was no train to hold.
brigandish 2y ago
To be fair, a lot (not all) of notes on Musk's posts are spurious, including the NNN's. It's clearly being misused there, but in general they seem to work very well indeed.

kristianc 2y ago

The bad faith “NNN - just expressing an opinion” is a cancer on CNs too.

extraduder_ire 2y ago

Community notes launched at the start of 2021. It predates the buyout by almost two years. If what they said about their design is to be believed, political downvoting shouldn't heavily impact them. I wish it was easier to see pending notes on a post though.

Analemma_ 2y ago
Right, I think that's the parent's point: CN is a great design, dragged down by the fact that Elon heavily puts his thumb on the scale to make sure posts he likes spread far and wide and posts he dislikes get buried, irrespective of their truth content.
- qingcharles 2y ago
  This. You're getting downvoted as bad as me LOL
qingcharles 2y ago
I agree, you should be able to see pending notes even if you're not a CN moderator.
- extraduder_ire 2y ago
  You can see them, it's just that finding the button to do so on a post is difficult. I think you need to navigate to the post from the notes section of the website.

raphman 2y ago

I am not so sure that Musk or right-wing moderators are directly to blame for the lack of published community notes. My guess: in recent months, many people (e.g., me) who are motivated to counter fake news have left Twitter for other platforms. Thus, proposed CNs are seen and upvoted by fewer people, resulting in fewer of them being shown to the public. Also, I ask myself: why should I spend time verifying or writing CNs when it does not matter - the emperor knows that he is not wearing any clothes, and he does not care.

netsharc 2y ago
> the emperor knows that he is not wearing any clothes, and he does not care. Indeed the ending of the famous story is: > "But the Emperor has nothing at all on!" said a little child. > "Listen to the voice of innocence!" exclaimed his father; and what the child had said was whispered from one to another. > "But he has nothing at all on!" at last cried out all the people. The Emperor was vexed, for he knew that the people were right; but he thought the procession must go on now! And the lords of the bedchamber took greater pains than ever, to appear holding up a train, although, in reality, there was no train to hold.

brigandish 2y ago

To be fair, a lot (not all) of notes on Musk's posts are spurious, including the NNN's. It's clearly being misused there, but in general they seem to work very well indeed.