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They are intentionally keeping the VRAM small on these cards to force people to buy their larger, more expensive offerings.
by ActionHank 2y ago
They are intentionally keeping the VRAM small on these cards to force people to buy their larger, more expensive offerings.
- Havoc 2y agoSaw someone else point out that potentially the culprit here isn’t nvidia but memory makers. It’s still 2gb per chip and has been since forever
- tharmas 2y agoGDDR7 apparently has the capability of 3gb per chip. As it becomes more available their could be more VRAM configurations. Some speculate maybe an RTX 5080 Super 24gb release next year. Wishful thinking perhaps.
- tbolt 2y agoMaybe, but if they strapped these with 64gb+ wouldn’t that be wasted on folks buying it for its intended purpose? Gaming. Though the “intended use” is changing and has been for a bit now.
- whywhywhywhy 2y agoXX90 is only half a gaming card it's also the one the entire creative professional 3D CGI, AI, game dev industry runs on.
- knowitnone 2y agohmmm, maybe they can had different offerings like 16GB, 32GB, 64GB, etc. Maybe we can even have 4 wheels on a car.
- mox1 2y agoNot really, the more textures you can put into memory the faster they can do their thing. PC gamers would say that a modern mid-range card (1440p card) should really have 16GB of vram. So a 5060 or even a 5070 with less than that amount is kind of silly.
- Aerroon 2y agoThe only reason gaming doesn't use all the VRAM is because typically GPUs don't have all the VRAM. If they did then games would somehow find a way to use it.
- jajko 2y agoGame engines are optimized for lowest common denominator, being in this case consoles. PC games are rarely exclusivities, so same engine has to make it running with least ram available and differences between versions are normally small. One normally uses some ultra texture pack to utilize current gen card's memory fully on many games.
- Aerroon 2y agoConsoles would have more VRAM too if these cards had more VRAM. It's not like they're made separately in isolation.
- tharmas 2y agoTotally agree. I call this the "Apple Model". Just like the Apple Mac base configurations with skimpy RAM and Drive capacities to make the price look "reasonable". However, just like Apple, NVIDIA does make really good hardware.
- marginalia_nu 2y agoMakes sense. The games industry doesn't want another crypto mining-style GPU shortage.
- hibikir 2y agoIf the VRAM wasn't small, the cards would all get routed to non gaming uses. Remember the state of the market when the 3000 series was new?
- ginko 2y agoThen they should sell more of them.
- ChoGGi 2y agoWhy sell more when you can sell less for more
- wkat4242 2y agoThey can only make so many, that's part of the problem
- bornfreddy 2y agoThey should contact Intel.
- SideQuark 2y agoSo you're saying more VRAM costs more money? What a novel idea! Conversely, this means you can pay less if you need less. Seems like a win all around.
- vonneumannstan 2y agoNo gamers need such high VRAM, if you're buying Gaming cards for ML work you're doing it wrong.
- riskable 2y agoIt's Nvidia that considers them, "gaming cards". The market decides their use in reality though. Their strategy is to sell lower-VRAM cards to consumers with the understanding that they can make more money on their more expensive cards for professionals/business. By doing this, though they're creating a gap in the market that their competitors could fill (in theory). Of course, this assumes their competitors have half a brain cell (I'm looking at YOU, Intel! For fuck's sake give us a 64GB ARC card already!).
- vonneumannstan 2y agoAnd if you buy the cards that Nvidia says are for gaming and then complain that they don't have good specs for ML, who is the fool exactly?
- epolanski 2y agoGames already exceed 16 GBs at 4k from years.
- throwaway48476 2y agoI exceed 16GB in Chrome.
- brokenmachine 2y agoThat says more about Chrome than anything else. I use Firefox and have an 8Gb card and only encounter problems when I have more than about 125 windows with about 10-20 tabs each. Yes, I am a tab hoarder. And yes, I am going to buy a 16Gb card soon. :P
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- barbazoo 2y agoIs there actually less VRAM on the cards or is it just disabled?
- deaddodo 2y agoGPU manufacturers have no reason to include additional memory chips of no use on a card. This isn't like a cutdown die, which is a single piece with disabled functionality...the memory chips are all independent (expensive) pieces soldered on board (the black squares surrounding the GPU core): https://cdn.mos.cms.futurecdn.net/vLHed8sBw8dX2BKs5QsdJ5-1200-80.png.webp https://cdn.mos.cms.futurecdn.net/vLHed8sBw8dX2BKs5QsdJ5-120...
- wkat4242 2y agoWell, they are gaming cards. 32GB is plenty for that.