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It’s bad for society that peddlers of stupidity can do so at scale and for little cost. We now have millions of people doubting the benefits of the polio vacci

It’s bad for society that peddlers of stupidity can do so at scale and for little cost. We now have millions of people doubting the benefits of the polio vaccine. This disinformation is spread primarily through a few websites. It seems to me that they ought to have some responsibility to restrict destructive disinformation.

drawkward 2y ago
Free speech should not include disinformation, which is an attack on society. Of course, the devil is in the details of enforcement: who watches the watchmen?
TylerLives 2y ago
When you suppress ideas in this way, they become more attractive to a large number of people. There is a problem with bad ideas spreading quickly on the internet, but censorship hasn't helped with this imo.
- chimprich 2y ago
  > When you suppress ideas in this way, they become more attractive to a large number of people. That sounds superficially reasonable, but I don't think that it's true. Turn the sentence around: "when you spread ideas more widely, they become more attractive to a large number of people". Repetition works. It's why trillions gets spent on advertising each year.
- gedpeck 2y ago
  Anti-vaccine sentiment didn’t arise due to suppression. It arose due to the ease of cheaply spreading a message on social media. We ran the experiment and see the results.
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bluenomatterwho 2y ago
Websites like this? https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC1383764/ https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC1383764/
- gedpeck 2y ago
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  - bluenomatterwho 2y ago
    I don't know why you assume I'm even on social media. The cutter incident is well known anyway, established in history in many more journals than the JRSM. It's the origin story of VAERS. How rude.
  - bluenomatterwho 2y ago
    Why is it so difficult to be transparent? The cure works, 90% of the time. 10% of the time it causes polio. It's also the source of new polio. I get it. I'm sure you're ready to acknowledge the quandary after 60 years? Surely this is no place for well-rounded, polite and thoughtful conversation...? "14 June 2023 Vaccine-derived polio is undermining the fight to eradicate the virus Wild polio has almost been eradicated, but vaccine-derived strains retain the potential to paralyse. Better vaccines have arrived — but they are only part of the answer." https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-023-01953-7 https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-023-01953-7

drawkward 2y ago

Free speech should not include disinformation, which is an attack on society. Of course, the devil is in the details of enforcement: who watches the watchmen?

TylerLives 2y ago

When you suppress ideas in this way, they become more attractive to a large number of people. There is a problem with bad ideas spreading quickly on the internet, but censorship hasn't helped with this imo.

chimprich 2y ago
> When you suppress ideas in this way, they become more attractive to a large number of people. That sounds superficially reasonable, but I don't think that it's true. Turn the sentence around: "when you spread ideas more widely, they become more attractive to a large number of people". Repetition works. It's why trillions gets spent on advertising each year.
gedpeck 2y ago
Anti-vaccine sentiment didn’t arise due to suppression. It arose due to the ease of cheaply spreading a message on social media. We ran the experiment and see the results.
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bluenomatterwho 2y ago

Websites like this? https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC1383764/ https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC1383764/

gedpeck 2y ago
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- bluenomatterwho 2y ago
  I don't know why you assume I'm even on social media. The cutter incident is well known anyway, established in history in many more journals than the JRSM. It's the origin story of VAERS. How rude.
- bluenomatterwho 2y ago
  Why is it so difficult to be transparent? The cure works, 90% of the time. 10% of the time it causes polio. It's also the source of new polio. I get it. I'm sure you're ready to acknowledge the quandary after 60 years? Surely this is no place for well-rounded, polite and thoughtful conversation...? "14 June 2023 Vaccine-derived polio is undermining the fight to eradicate the virus Wild polio has almost been eradicated, but vaccine-derived strains retain the potential to paralyse. Better vaccines have arrived — but they are only part of the answer." https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-023-01953-7 https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-023-01953-7