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Sounds like lots of ideas and principles copied over from the much-maligned X?!

by nickpp 2y ago

gkoberger 2y ago
It doesn’t mean it’s good. I’m happy to malign Facebook too.
andrepd 2y ago
The "X" that shuts down speech its owner doesn't like, and that openly said they were going to "change the algorithm to promote positivity" now that the president he helped elect stepped up? Jesus
- blackeyeblitzar 2y ago
  X is far less censored than any other social media platform of comparable size.
  - ceejayoz 2y ago
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    - blackeyeblitzar 2y ago
      Cool. Still, X is far less censored than any other social media platform of comparable size. And at least there are rules now, as opposed to the unaccountable chaos of the prior Twitter censorship regime.
      - ceejayoz 2y ago
        This seems more like unaccountable chaos than solid rules. https://thehill.com/policy/technology/5063009-elon-musk-defends-demonetize/ https://thehill.com/policy/technology/5063009-elon-musk-defe...
ceejayoz 2y ago
The billionaires are all kneeling to kiss the Trump/Musk rings, yes. All the companies announcing they're ditching diversity programs, WaPo and LA Times refusing to endorse candidates, Tim Cook donating to inauguration. It'll keep coming.
- andrepd 2y ago
  Ahh isn't it great when a fraction of a percent at the top wield such immense power over the lives of everyone else? Varoufakis is right, we live in a feudalism of sorts, and the fief lords have to swear fealty to their liege.
foooorsyth 2y ago
The ideas are from the Bill of Rights.
- tapoxi 2y ago
  Which are that the government can't censor speech. Forcing a private entity to support any form of speech is actually against the first amendment, it is compelled speech.
  - mardifoufs 2y ago
    Who's forcing what? They are just inspired by it, at least that's what the comment you are replying to is saying. If a private corporation wants to support or enable free speech, they are allowed to, just like you said. This is literally from Facebook itself so I'm not sure who is compelling who.
  - foooorsyth 2y ago
    Nobody is forcing anyone to do anything. Meta, as a large and powerful entity with the ability to censor as much or more than many governments, is opting to allow free speech on its platforms. So is X. That spirit is inspired by the Bill of Rights, not Elon Musk.
- ceejayoz 2y ago
  Which bit of "Congress shall make no law" did you interpret to state "Congress (and Facebook, Twitter, Google, Amazon, etc.) shall not..."?
  - foooorsyth 2y ago
    If you’re going to attempt to be pedantic, can you at least work on basic reading comprehension? The concept of a large and powerful entity allowing free speech is in the spirit of the Bill of Rights, whether the large and powerful entity is government or not. The parent poster was taking the position that allowing speech is somehow a Musk-derived idea, which is absurd.

Sounds like lots of ideas and principles copied over from the much-maligned X?!

by nickpp 2y ago

Sounds like lots of ideas and principles copied over from the much-maligned X?!

gkoberger 2y ago

It doesn’t mean it’s good. I’m happy to malign Facebook too.

andrepd 2y ago

The "X" that shuts down speech its owner doesn't like, and that openly said they were going to "change the algorithm to promote positivity" now that the president he helped elect stepped up? Jesus

blackeyeblitzar 2y ago
X is far less censored than any other social media platform of comparable size.
- ceejayoz 2y ago
  [flagged]
  - blackeyeblitzar 2y ago
    Cool. Still, X is far less censored than any other social media platform of comparable size. And at least there are rules now, as opposed to the unaccountable chaos of the prior Twitter censorship regime.
    - ceejayoz 2y ago
      This seems more like unaccountable chaos than solid rules. https://thehill.com/policy/technology/5063009-elon-musk-defends-demonetize/ https://thehill.com/policy/technology/5063009-elon-musk-defe...

ceejayoz 2y ago

The billionaires are all kneeling to kiss the Trump/Musk rings, yes. All the companies announcing they're ditching diversity programs, WaPo and LA Times refusing to endorse candidates, Tim Cook donating to inauguration. It'll keep coming.

andrepd 2y ago
Ahh isn't it great when a fraction of a percent at the top wield such immense power over the lives of everyone else? Varoufakis is right, we live in a feudalism of sorts, and the fief lords have to swear fealty to their liege.

foooorsyth 2y ago

The ideas are from the Bill of Rights.

tapoxi 2y ago
Which are that the government can't censor speech. Forcing a private entity to support any form of speech is actually against the first amendment, it is compelled speech.
- mardifoufs 2y ago
  Who's forcing what? They are just inspired by it, at least that's what the comment you are replying to is saying. If a private corporation wants to support or enable free speech, they are allowed to, just like you said. This is literally from Facebook itself so I'm not sure who is compelling who.
- foooorsyth 2y ago
  Nobody is forcing anyone to do anything. Meta, as a large and powerful entity with the ability to censor as much or more than many governments, is opting to allow free speech on its platforms. So is X. That spirit is inspired by the Bill of Rights, not Elon Musk.
ceejayoz 2y ago
Which bit of "Congress shall make no law" did you interpret to state "Congress (and Facebook, Twitter, Google, Amazon, etc.) shall not..."?
- foooorsyth 2y ago
  If you’re going to attempt to be pedantic, can you at least work on basic reading comprehension? The concept of a large and powerful entity allowing free speech is in the spirit of the Bill of Rights, whether the large and powerful entity is government or not. The parent poster was taking the position that allowing speech is somehow a Musk-derived idea, which is absurd.