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Decreased poison intake is not sad, actually.

cduzz 2y ago
The sayings are "the dose makes the poison." or "The solution is dilution." I've found over time that neither aphorism is true. The poison is poison, regardless. Caffeine, Sugar, Plastic, Alcohol, Social media --- all bad like arsenic, but tastier (or more useful). I want to drink some sugar free beverage that's not just water, and find that my only option is typically caffeinated (or alcoholic, which is nearly the same as sugar). So indeed, decreasing poison intake is a good thing. Since life is inevitability fatal, I'll probably not go to the extreme of eliminating any of those.
- sebstefan 2y ago
  There is a recommended dose of sugar a day, there is no safe dose of alcohol. Same as cigarettes
  - lambdaba 2y ago
    There is a recommended upper limit, your comment makes it sound like sugar is a requirement. I think some people might still believe you "need" sugar, I certainly grew up with that notion.
    - cduzz 2y ago
      People need carbohydrates. Sugar is one of the possible ways of getting carbohydrates, certainly one of the most delicious. You won't get sick if you get your carbohydrates from some non sucrose / fructose source.
      - wiseowise 2y ago
        > Sugar is one of the possible ways of getting carbohydrates, certainly one of the most delicious. And certainly one of the most expensive ones in the long run.
      - lambdaba 2y ago
        Carbohydrates are not biologically required in the diet.
    - sebstefan 2y ago
      >your comment makes it sound like sugar is a requirement Sugars plural yes Hypoglycemia
      - lambdaba 2y ago
        There is no biological requirement for dietary carbohydrates.
        sebstefan 2y ago
        Then how do we get glucose to avoid hypoglycemia?
        lambdaba 2y ago
        the liver makes glucose (called gluconeogenesis), this happens regardless of diet
        sebstefan 2y ago
        Damn I looked it up and it's true, the WHO has no recommendation for a minimum amount of carbs nor sugar
- wiseowise 2y ago
  > I want to drink some sugar free beverage that's not just water, and find that my only option is typically caffeinated (or alcoholic, which is nearly the same as sugar). Move to the Netherlands. https://www.ah.nl/producten/product/wi518907/zero-sugar-zero-caffeine-8-pack https://www.ah.nl/producten/product/wi518907/zero-sugar-zero...
  - cduzz 2y ago
    Oh, I don't even want it to taste sweet; cold black coffee is my typical beverage; I've had to switch to decaf just to keep my resting heart rate somewhere below 100bpm...

The sayings are "the dose makes the poison." or "The solution is dilution." I've found over time that neither aphorism is true. The poison is poison, regardless. Caffeine, Sugar, Plastic, Alcohol, Social media --- all bad like arsenic, but tastier (or more useful). I want to drink some sugar free beverage that's not just water, and find that my only option is typically caffeinated (or alcoholic, which is nearly the same as sugar). So indeed, decreasing poison intake is a good thing. Since life is inevitability fatal, I'll probably not go to the extreme of eliminating any of those.

sebstefan 2y ago
There is a recommended dose of sugar a day, there is no safe dose of alcohol. Same as cigarettes
- lambdaba 2y ago
  There is a recommended upper limit, your comment makes it sound like sugar is a requirement. I think some people might still believe you "need" sugar, I certainly grew up with that notion.
  - cduzz 2y ago
    People need carbohydrates. Sugar is one of the possible ways of getting carbohydrates, certainly one of the most delicious. You won't get sick if you get your carbohydrates from some non sucrose / fructose source.
    - wiseowise 2y ago
      > Sugar is one of the possible ways of getting carbohydrates, certainly one of the most delicious. And certainly one of the most expensive ones in the long run.
    - lambdaba 2y ago
      Carbohydrates are not biologically required in the diet.
  - sebstefan 2y ago
    >your comment makes it sound like sugar is a requirement Sugars plural yes Hypoglycemia
    - lambdaba 2y ago
      There is no biological requirement for dietary carbohydrates.
      - sebstefan 2y ago
        Then how do we get glucose to avoid hypoglycemia?
        lambdaba 2y ago
        the liver makes glucose (called gluconeogenesis), this happens regardless of diet
        sebstefan 2y ago
        Damn I looked it up and it's true, the WHO has no recommendation for a minimum amount of carbs nor sugar
wiseowise 2y ago
> I want to drink some sugar free beverage that's not just water, and find that my only option is typically caffeinated (or alcoholic, which is nearly the same as sugar). Move to the Netherlands. https://www.ah.nl/producten/product/wi518907/zero-sugar-zero-caffeine-8-pack https://www.ah.nl/producten/product/wi518907/zero-sugar-zero...
- cduzz 2y ago
  Oh, I don't even want it to taste sweet; cold black coffee is my typical beverage; I've had to switch to decaf just to keep my resting heart rate somewhere below 100bpm...